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The National View: Orkney Four are more deserving of trust’s cash than shamed MP

"YOU really couldn’t make it up. Alistair Carmichael, the shamed MP for Orkney and Shetland and self-confessed liar – a sobriquet confirmed by two senior judges – has managed to squeeze £34,000 from the Joseph Rowntree Reform Trust (JRRT) to help him with his £150,000 legal bill from the Frenchgate case."
Fucking hell, what absolute scum - both Carmichael and the JRRT.
 
Ha, I saw there had been another post here and guessed it would be that one. :D

Aw, it's nice that Willie Rennie is getting all the publicity he could want now, isn't it? I bet he's dead chuffed.
 
Their pathetic result in the Tooting bye-election gives an excellent reason to bump this thread.

Full result:
  • Rosena Chantelle Allin-Khan (Labour Party) - 17,894 (55.9% +8.7%)
  • Dan Watkins (Conservative Party) - 11,537 (36.1% -5.8%)
  • Esther Dede Obiri-Darko (Green Party) - 830 (2.6% -1.5%)
  • Alexander James Glassbrook (Liberal Democrats) - 820 (2.6% -1.4%)
  • Elizabeth Eirwen Jones (UK Independence Party) - 507 (1.6% -1.3%)
  • Des Coke (Christian People's Party) - 164
  • Howling Laud Hope (The Official Monster Raving Loony Party) - 54
  • Graham Harry Moore (English Democrats Love England - Leave EU!) - 50
  • Dr Akbar Ali Malik (Immigrants Political Party) - 44
  • Ankit Love (One Love Party) - 32
  • Zirwa Javaid (Independent) - 30
  • Dr Zia Samadani (Independent) - 23
  • Bobby Smith (Give Me Back Elmo) - 9
  • Smiley Smillie (Independent) - 5
Change compared with 2015 General Election. The turnout was 42.5%, with 31,763 votes cast out of 74,701 eligible voters.
 
dunno really

if they stand for election on that basis, and get elected to form a majority government on that basis...
11m people voted Tory in the last election. 17m voted Thursday to leave the EU.

What sort of numbers would you think the Lib Dems would need to be justified in ignoring the democratic result of the EU ref?
 
11m people voted Tory in the last election. 17m voted Thursday to leave the EU.

What sort of numbers would you think the Lib Dems would need to be justified in ignoring the democratic result of the EU ref?

my thoughts on the prospects of the lib dems forming a majority government -

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Labour, the Lib Dems and the Greens are calling for a snap general election, rather than waiting for the contest scheduled for 2020 under the Fixed Term Parliaments Act.
That'll be the Lib Dems that argued for, and secured Fixed Term Parliaments under the coalition agreement, then?
:facepalm:
 
dunno really

if they stand for election on that basis, and get elected to form a majority government on that basis...
It's a good strategy for them in Scotland, apart from that Scotland may well stick with SNP. Hilariously though, they've run the numbers to find 20 remain seats and 26 leave seats; if they think it's re-running the referendum then they're losing 3 seats. Which they then spin into this strategy not even deserving criticism (spin includes taking 11 seats in Scotland for granted for no reason I can fathom): How did our constituencies vote in the EU Referendum?.

Looking at the numbers, and I've no reason to doubt them, their position is frankly mental unless they merge with some PLP / Greens and really take on London.
 
As a newcomer, I'd like to comment that there are 281 pages here, so sorry if that link was posted before, I just can't bear to start in at the beginning and work through it to check.
 
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