Why the Green Party is shit

[chilango]

see 1997 - 2010 passim

...yet you still are an active Labour member, pointing fingers at Green records?

Hmmm.

An issue of credibility pops up for me here.

 

[Pickman's model]

...yet you still are an active Labour member, pointing fingers at Green records?

Hmmm.

An issue of credibility pops up for me here.

it's incredible that anyone here still listens to anything he says.

 

[articul8]

I didn't author the article - it's accompanied by another piece looking more sympathetically at the case for a "green surge".

 

[Pickman's model]

see 1997 - 2010 passim

yeh things like doubling the 10p tax rate
like waging aggressive war, several times
like criminalising dissent (before 9/11) - see for example the terrorism act 2000
there's nothing labour can teach anyone about doing good
there's much they can teach about shitting on people

 

[Pickman's model]

I didn't author the article

and no doubt there's a good reason for that

 

[chilango]

I didn't author the article - it's accompanied by another piece looking more sympathetically at the case for a "green surge".

You promoted it, here.

 

[articul8]

You promoted it, here.

I was asked further up the thread why it wasn't online yet - so I've given the link

 

[chilango]

I was asked further up the thread why it wasn't online yet - so I've given the link

Ok.

 

[JTG]

Montpelier goes to Lawrence Hill:
http://www.theguardian.com/commenti...1/green-party-middle-class-bristol-west-video

 

[J Ed]

Montpelier goes to Lawrence Hill:
http://www.theguardian.com/commenti...1/green-party-middle-class-bristol-west-video

What an uninspiring lot - all basic platitudes about democracy and the acquisition of power. No real interest in the people they were talking to at Lawrence Hill beyond them 'getting out of bed' for one day in the election cycle. They could be any party, really, except they are posher and whiter. Where's the passion about the injustice done to the unemployed and the disabled? The talk about nationalisations and workers' rights?

 

[Louis MacNeice]

Montpelier goes to Lawrence Hill:
http://www.theguardian.com/commenti...1/green-party-middle-class-bristol-west-video

IWCA gets an approving name check in the comments section!

Cheers - Louis MacNeice

 

[rioted]

Where's the passion about the injustice done to the unemployed and the disabled? The talk about nationalisations and workers' rights?

I thought the Trots had the monopoly on that?

 

[butchersapron]

Montpelier goes to Lawrence Hill:
http://www.theguardian.com/commenti...1/green-party-middle-class-bristol-west-video

Ashcroft released some bristol west polling on saturday - as long predicted (by both of us i think) labour walk home - look at that that green/lib-dem crossover as well

 

[JTG]

Yep, been saying it since 2010. Had a bit of a wobble that the Greens would let Williams back in but when I saw that poll it seems not

Seems that most new Green support has come from the Lib Dems (Bishopston/Redland springs to mind given the recent council results) but enough Lib Dems have gone straight to Labour to make it irrelevant

 

[Dogsauce]

Where are Labour going wrong in NW Bristol? Tories taking Avonmouth in the local elections seems preposterous. Are UKIP damaging the trad labour vote here more than the vermin vote? Are there local factors?

 

[JTG]

Where are Labour going wrong in NW Bristol? Tories taking Avonmouth in the local elections seems preposterous. Are UKIP damaging the trad labour vote here more than the vermin vote? Are there local factors?

Leslie seems to have done well at the 'good constituency MP' thing - supporting the Henbury Loop campaign and backing Rovers v Sainsbury's (asked questions in the House and everything). The Rovers thing in particular has done her some good with the more middle class centre right type of BRFC fan in the NW suburbs.
I've only really seen Labour stakeboards and posters in the bits of NW I've been through lately but these are Lockleaze, poorer end of Horfield etc rather than the more Tory/swing bits of the constituency. I don't think Labour have made much impression there in the last five years, or even while Naysmith was still in situ

 

[JTG]

Saw this on my facebook. Smuggest load of shit ever, ugh

 

[redsquirrel]

Christ that is shit, I wonder if it's one of Taffbhoy's?

 

[Nylock]

wow, that's.... wow..... ....

 

[Steel Icarus]

Saw this on my facebook. Smuggest load of shit ever, ugh

yeah, I posted this too (in the "things divs post on Fb" thread), it's fucking awful, and was posted by a basically apolitical hippy who's really lovely but I would guess rather save a single snow leopard than a hundred doleys

 

[Johnny Vodka]

yeah, I posted this too (in the "things divs post on Fb" thread), it's fucking awful, and was posted by a basically apolitical hippy who's really lovely but I would guess rather save a single snow leopard than a hundred doleys

Yet looking after the enviroment also helps people.

I've decided I'm probably voting Green anyway. Another reason why the Green party is shit.

 

[Artaxerxes]

yeah, I posted this too (in the "things divs post on Fb" thread), it's fucking awful, and was posted by a basically apolitical hippy who's really lovely but I would guess rather save a single snow leopard than a hundred doleys

To be fair of the parties listed, apart from the Greens, I don't think a one of them gives a fuck about anything much

Individual spods probably do but as you get higher? Rarer than hens teeth.

 

[Dogsauce]

To their credit, at least they can draw a bar chart properly. Still has as a whiff of libdemmery about it.

 

[JTG]

To their credit, at least they can draw a bar chart properly. Still has as a whiff of libdemmery about it.

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There's a Green billboard down the bottom of the Stapleton Road (bizarrely, part of Bristol West despite being firmly in east Bristol) which has been routinely defaced and then patched up again. Anarchos and Green types at loggerheads over this one

 

[bemused]

I'm going to vote Green, but Natalie Bennett is awful. Come back Caroline .... please.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/pol...-am-an-immigrant-says-Green-Party-leader.html

 

[Sirena]

They could be any party, really, except they are posher and whiter.

Ahem! Deputy leader of the Greens

And my local Green candidate

 

[tbtommyb]

Ahem! Deputy leader of the Greens

And my local Green candidate

Undeniable though that the Greens have a lower proportion of BME candidates than the other parties, which is something that is being worked on.

 

[Artaxerxes]

edit: wrong thread

 

[treelover]

To their credit, at least they can draw a bar chart properly. Still has as a whiff of libdemmery about it.

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If I was in Caroline Lucas's constituency I would vote for her like a shot.

btw, the Dep Leader, I watch lots of political shows, etc, and I don't recall seeing him on any.

 

[BlackArab]

btw, the Dep Leader, I watch lots of political shows, etc, and I don't recall seeing him on any.

My thought too. I've only become aware of him in the last week but yet I've mentioned the lack of diversity in the GP to local Greens often and no one has ever disagreed or mentioned him. Makes me even more convinced than ever that they are indifferent to BME voters if they can't even be arsed to.