why the bbc is going down the pan

[DaveCinzano]

thhats got to be a 'shop. Not even that x factor wanker, cowell, wears em that high. His belt must be chafing his nipples man

Yeah I suppose it could be, but then again sometimes the truth is stranger than fiction.

I like how you two have flawlessly pastiched a Newsnight studio discussion there

 

[Pickman's model]

I like how you two have flawlessly pastiched a Newsnight studio discussion there

they've internalised the manner and style of what passes for debate at the bbc

 

[teqniq]

I like how you two have flawlessly pastiched a Newsnight studio discussion there

Oh rly? Haven't watched Newsnight in years so I am none the wiser.

 

[DotCommunist]

I would totaly say wanker on newsnight, because thats how punk I am

 

[teqniq]

 

[DaveCinzano]

I am none the wiser.

Much like anyone who has watched it

 

[DotCommunist]

'sports people get off plane' trumping all other news at the moment. Its things like this and royal coverage which make you realise how utterly sychophantic they are at the beeb.

 

[CNT36]

'sports people get off plane' trumping all other news at the moment. Its things like this and royal coverage which make you realise how utterly sychophantic they are at the beeb.

Royal coverage? What Royal coverage? Is it on now? Is it the Queen? She always dresses lovely.

 

[DotCommunist]

nicholas witchell holding his cloak up to protect the royal modesty

 

[DaveCinzano]

nicholas witchell holding his cloak up to protect the royal modesty

I recall lobbing a bit of mild abuse at him in 2000 whilst he was en route to cover an anti-Terrorism Act event, he was a lot smaller than I'd imagined

 

[bi0boy]

Scare piece on BBC News channel now about MDMA, "one of the main ingredients in ecstasy". Apparently it's getting stronger and the people taking it are getting younger, some as young as 18 . It's even available on the internet these days. Apparently someone died after taking one pill. This is put to current MDMA users and they're told they're lucky to be alive.

 

[bi0boy]

World's Strongest Man contestant dies

 

[bi0boy]

Apparently a woman's sister has put photos online and someone has accessed them

 

[Dogsauce]

Yet again they're running an article on disgraced minister Liam Fox but forgetting to use the 'disgraced' prefix. It's like facts don't matter to them anymore.

 

[danny la rouge]

Good grief: Labour and the left: A guide to names - BBC News

 

[JimW]

Good grief: Labour and the left: A guide to names - BBC News

Amazing, especially liked their soft-soap on neoliberalism after several clueless definitions of various left strands. Thick Tim-Nice-But-Dims and their bullshitter's guide to reality level of understanding is as much a problem as any conscious bias.

 

[Rob Ray]

I like how their understanding of anarcho-syndicalism is so thin they have to bulk it out with a Monty Python reference.

 

[DotCommunist]

thats did my homework on the bus stuff isn't it

 

[planetgeli]

Good grief: Labour and the left: A guide to names - BBC News

Jesus fucking Christ. On her journalisted page it says she has written more about "Labour" than anything else - so obviously an expert then. I honestly expected to find the profile of a 22 year old straight out of uni or even a student journalist.

She's not young.

Good grief doesn't begin to cover it.

 

[krtek a houby]

How would urban boffins present the BBC guide/article to the public, getting the tone correct & meanings across?

 

[Idris2002]

How would urban boffins present the BBC guide/article to the public, getting the tone correct & meanings across?

They could start by getting their facts right.

 

[krtek a houby]

They could start by getting their facts right.

The beeb? For sure. But how would you have done the article, iyswim? Genuine question, not having a pop

 

[Idris2002]

The beeb? For sure. But how would you have done the article, iyswim? Genuine question, not having a pop

Off the top of my head, I'd leave out the trivialising rubbish about badges and Monty Python. And just get basic facts right - whatever you may think of Trotsky he did not "break with Lenin and Stalin in the 1930s", as A) Lenin was already dead by then, B) Trotters had already been expelled from the USSR by then, and C) El Trotto always claimed to be the true inheritor of Lenin, and therefore could not in any sense be said to have "broken" with him.

Seriously, krtek these are just basic facts - you'd think the Beeb journo would have been taught them in Oxbridge/her expensive private school. Getting basic facts right shouldn't be a luxury optional extra, should it?

 

[krtek a houby]

Off the top of my head, I'd leave out the trivialising rubbish about badges and Monty Python. And just get basic facts right - whatever you may think of Trotsky he did not "break with Lenin and Stalin in the 1930s", as A) Lenin was already dead by then, B) Trotters had already been expelled from the USSR by then, and C) El Trotto always claimed to be the true inheritor of Lenin, and therefore could not in any sense be said to have "broken" with him.

Seriously, krtek these are just basic facts - you'd think the Beeb journo would have been taught them in Oxbridge/her expensive private school. Getting basic facts right shouldn't be a luxury optional extra, should it?

I agree, yes, of course the facts need to be just that and leave out the badges and Python stuff. I was just wondering - besides the poor quality journalism on display there - how you or anyone else here would file such a story. What would you say, in essence? If you were assigned that task by the editor or head of news etc?

(And if I may add; not all of the thousands of people who work for the beeb have Oxbridge/expensive private school backgrounds)

 

[Idris2002]

(And if I may add; not all of the thousands of people who work for the beeb have Oxbridge/expensive private school backgrounds)

Indeed!

 

[danny la rouge]

I agree, yes, of course the facts need to be just that and leave out the badges and Python stuff. I was just wondering - besides the poor quality journalism on display there - how you or anyone else here would file such a story. What would you say, in essence? If you were assigned that task by the editor or head of news etc?

(And if I may add; not all of the thousands of people who work for the beeb have Oxbridge/expensive private school backgrounds)

No, but a disproportionate number do. Remember 7% of the UK population is privately educated.

 

[krtek a houby]

Indeed!

I was referring to the people on the ground; runners, porters, canteen staff, drivers, lifters, IT, librarians, staff who are never seen on telly and so on...

No, but a disproportionate number do. Remember 7% of the UK population is privately educated.

Ok, understood. And perhaps the journo in question is privately educated. I was just wondering how the urban who know their stuff would have presented an easy to comprehend article (without the frivolity and incorrect statements)...

 

[danny la rouge]

I was referring to the people on the ground; runners, porters, canteen staff, drivers, lifters, IT, librarians, staff who are never seen on telly and so on...

And who should have been given the assignment.

Ok, understood. And perhaps the journo in question is privately educated. I was just wondering how the urban who know their stuff would have presented an easy to comprehend article (without the frivolity and incorrect statements)...

For the most part, with aplomb.

 

[Pickman's model]

I recall lobbing a bit of mild abuse at him in 2000 whilst he was en route to cover an anti-Terrorism Act event, he was a lot smaller than I'd imagined

Much to be modest about

 

[ViolentPanda]

thats did my homework on the bus stuff isn't it

Nah.
That's "the dog ate my homework, then shat it out, and that's how the words came out of Fido's arse" stuff.