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It's when they say 'President Obama' that gets me. Not 'American President, Barack Obama'

They always preface other countries' leaders names with which country they represent, so there's an air of preference to the US. "President Obama today announced..." president of who? UK? No? Then don't just say 'President' like it's assumed he rules over us.

Pet hate.
 
It's when they say 'President Obama' that gets me. Not 'American President, Barack Obama'

They always preface other countries' leaders names with which country they represent, so there's an air of preference to the US. "President Obama today announced..." president of who? UK? No? Then don't just say 'President' like it's assumed he rules over us.

Pet hate.

I hate it when they say "Prime Minister David Cameron" as if he rules over us. Not on my watch.
 
I hate it when they say "Prime Minister David Cameron" as if he rules over us. Not on my watch.
so what do you think he does do, if he doesn't 'rule over us'? back in the 80s they said 'the premier, margaret thatcher' or 'margaret thatcher, the prime minister': and it was the same for major and blair and brown. david cameron does rule over us: even if you don't like it.
 
so what do you think he does do, if he doesn't 'rule over us'? back in the 80s they said 'the premier, margaret thatcher' or 'margaret thatcher, the prime minister': and it was the same for major and blair and brown. david cameron does rule over us: even if you don't like it.

He doesn't rule over us. Nobody rules over us. We shall not, we shall not be ruled.
 
Not really the same anyway.

The point is, if they're a foreign president, they should spell out which country they 'preside' over. Even if its obvious. Or else its just an assumption we know, and then that should be applied to all countries equally. If not then it shows preference for the USA, which is bullshit. And it sounds like he's our president, which he ain't.
 
Listen buddy, you may, for all I know, enjoy being ruled over but nobody owns my ass. Nobody.
it's not a matter of being happy about it, it is a matter of recognising reality. for example, cameron's government has dreamed up and enforces a range of measures which affect you, e.g. the tax rate, the tax on cigarettes, etc etc etc. while he may not tell you what to do on a day-to-day basis he governs the country.
 
it's not a matter of being happy about it, it is a matter of recognising reality. for example, cameron's government has dreamed up and enforces a range of measures which affect you, e.g. the tax rate, the tax on cigarettes, etc etc etc. while he may not tell you what to do on a day-to-day basis he governs the country.

Yes, yes - however, in that case - when someone like the American President makes a decision on foreigm policy, war etc - that can also affect the rest of us. In a way, he is "our" president.
 
"Veteran BBC broadcaster Sir Terry Wogan has died aged 77, after short illness, his family confirms"

a short illness. :mad:
 
Are they from Chilay?
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Viewpoint: Why green campaigners should embrace capitalism - BBC News

"For some reason green campaigners don't tend to be very interested in international finance.

Many environmentalists believe capitalism - and the financial architecture that supports it - is the source of the climate change problem, rather than a potential solution.

That is a mistake.

Because if anything is likely to save us all from the catastrophe that is uncontrolled global warming, it is global capitalism."

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Oxford-educated author Justin Rowlatt, once known as "Ethical Man"... I kid you not.
 
if you don't agree with that sentiment, let's debate it. I'm @BBCJustinR on Twitter.

He's open to counter argument. Don't wail at us. Go thrash it out with him.
Change his mind.
 
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