butchersapron
Bring back hanging
You're asking to comment on a post election pledge.
And then when i point out what it is you do this.
Why Labour are Scum
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And then when i point out what it is you do this.
sihhi
Tyranny, like hell, is not easily conquered
The broad reality remains:
There is no threat of surcharge and no threat of imprisonment Labour councillors have only themselves and their own party to blame for enacting cuts.
Every year that goes by every year the scale of reversal becomes harder for a supposed 2020 government, every year the weak are consistently put to the wall and Labour councillors and leadership are congratulated for "anti-austerity".
There is no threat of surcharge and no threat of imprisonment Labour councillors have only themselves and their own party to blame for enacting cuts.
Every year that goes by every year the scale of reversal becomes harder for a supposed 2020 government, every year the weak are consistently put to the wall and Labour councillors and leadership are congratulated for "anti-austerity".
butchersapron
Bring back hanging
No labour group martyr either.
On a vaguely related note one of my local councillors seems to be making waves in Labour left circles for his innovative local finance policies. As far as I can tell they add up to 'encourage local businesses to buy locally', and I've not seen how it's had an effect beyond the rhetoric, but you might find his ideas interesting two sheds.
Great title to this article too. Renewal | Matthew Brown, Martin O’Neill | The Road to Socialism is the A59: The Preston Model
Great title to this article too. Renewal | Matthew Brown, Martin O’Neill | The Road to Socialism is the A59: The Preston Model
two sheds
Least noticed poster 2007
Great article, thanks, good luck to them
.And there must be more councils can do - turn over scrap land to car parking to get an income so the private companies don't funnel it all off. That can't have to wait until after an election.
Sorry about the curtish reply to you earlier, most of that was in response to Butchers' sarcastic posts.
Not sure if this should be filed under 'why Labour are scum' or 'how exactly some of their supporters are scum'..
A senior guy at my work's a big Fabian/liberal Labour type. The kind that wringes his hands about the plight of the poor while sending his kids to a public school. I've never really come across this type before, if I had heard they existed.
His big thing is bemoaning the utter stupidity of working class people who voted for Brexit, we should rerun the referendum and all that. If only these stupid people were as smart as him, why are they even allowed to vote etc etc.
He's just been telling me he's going to India for a wedding and is planning on spending a few weeks looking round a bit. But he's going to have to fly first or business class there and on internal flights because he 'can't stand being anywhere near smelly or dirty people'.
He made a point of saying this wasn't just an india thing, he feels like that in general. These fucking people.
(Sorry, probably completely the wrong thread for it but...these fucking people.)
A senior guy at my work's a big Fabian/liberal Labour type. The kind that wringes his hands about the plight of the poor while sending his kids to a public school. I've never really come across this type before, if I had heard they existed.
His big thing is bemoaning the utter stupidity of working class people who voted for Brexit, we should rerun the referendum and all that. If only these stupid people were as smart as him, why are they even allowed to vote etc etc.
He's just been telling me he's going to India for a wedding and is planning on spending a few weeks looking round a bit. But he's going to have to fly first or business class there and on internal flights because he 'can't stand being anywhere near smelly or dirty people'.
He made a point of saying this wasn't just an india thing, he feels like that in general. These fucking people.
(Sorry, probably completely the wrong thread for it but...these fucking people.)
Mr.Bishie
pickled egg
Deserves a kick in the bollocks tbh. Failing that, get Pickman's model to bring his mobile gallows to your place of work.
Kick in the bollocks is way too good for him. Hopefully Pickman's model will oblige.
Just find it utterly bizarre that he didn't seem to think he was saying anything even vaguely dodgy/prejudiced at all and was quite happy to come out with all this shit at work. Guess the caveat about it not being a *race* thing made it all completely acceptable.
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
Can I like that again..?
sihhi
Tyranny, like hell, is not easily conquered
Someone mentioned a north-south issue earlier.
Labour London councils enforce benefit cuts, effectively increase tax on the poor: massive increase in bailiff dispossession.
Labour London councils enforce benefit cuts, effectively increase tax on the poor: massive increase in bailiff dispossession.
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
Always the Labour party harsher in this than the l.g. Tories.
RedSkin
Well-Known Member
And who were the harsherst local governments in the persual of non poll-tax payers. I always pull that one out the hat whem tribal Labour voters go 'What about the Tory Poll tax?' What with Labour's virtual non-opposition to the tax, its refusal to support non-payment and rutheless local labour council persual of non-payers (wasn't Cherie Blair made wealthy on the prosecution of non-payers?) Once again In more recent times Labour finds itself on the wrong side in the class war. Wonder how Corbyn would have responded what with having 'greater responsibility' as leader.
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RedSkin
Well-Known Member
And tho its not directly Corbyn's fault what about the great wheeze of P.F.I. ? Here you go invest a bunch of money in pulic services and if you don't make a profit, don't worry the public will pay it to you. A win-win sitiation for capital.
Another reason Labour are scum.
Another reason Labour are scum.
I recall an acquaintance, now a doctor, who I was informed recoiled when someone brushed her arm down the market with "OMG, one of them touched me" I really wouldn't believe it but my source was a close friend of her's.
another was a fellow student(and Steiner school alumni), who said she was "meeting her dad to go down the market to laugh at the freaks"
I think this is much more prevalent than one would imagine, Brexit has exposed it all though.
ViolentPanda
Hardly getting over it.
There aren't enough spaces in legislation such as the Localism Act (which is what allowed St. Ives to do what they did) to generate significant funding for local authorities. You need to bear in mind that for the last 37 years solid, local authorities have had their ability to generate revenue cut away - so much so that they'd need to generate enough revenue to multiply their current budgets threefold merely to get back on the same footing they had after their power to charge rates were removed in the late 1980s.
You also have the challenge of convincing local authorities to act against central govt interests. It's something that happens very rarely nowadays.
seventh bullet
sovietwave
It's been around as long as I can remember, and before me.
I remember being noted for my clean appearance and smart clothes unlike the dirty raggers that come here mostly, by the manager of a mental health occupational/therapy charity thingy I joined when recovering from my breakdown requiring hospitalisation (when I was young and handsome). I was quite taken aback, given the vulnerability of many people with serious mental health/illness problems to a life in poverty re those without informal support networks or steady employment.
A few years ago some academic in Sheffield starting speaking to me r-e-a-l-l-y s-l-o-w-l-y after discovering I hadn't been to university. I wished there had been a machine gun handy. Our betters seem to have trouble understanding working class people, or recognising their prejudices.
Wilf
Slouching towards Billingham
Yes, Fabian paternalism always worse than Tory paternalism. Can't find it, but I vaguely remember a quote from GB Shaw where he was asked if he called himself a socialist because he loved the working class. 'No it's because I hate them'.
seventh bullet
sovietwave
Or its misuse?
Wilf
Slouching towards Billingham
Vaz, prostitution and Class As, lol 
Married MP Keith Vaz tells prostitutes he invited to flat to bring poppers
Married MP Keith Vaz tells prostitutes he invited to flat to bring poppers
DotCommunist
So many particulars. So many questions.
Ponyutd
Greebo likes this....r.i.p.
His wifes name is Valerie. Trying ever saying her name without the Blankety Blank theme going round your head.Vaz, prostitution and Class As, lol
Married MP Keith Vaz tells prostitutes he invited to flat to bring poppers
Hidden from history, time to bring them out of the shadows.
maybe ch4 would do a doc on them.
Wilf
Slouching towards Billingham
Pity he didn't use his Blankety Blank Cheque Book and Pen to pay them off.
sihhi
Tyranny, like hell, is not easily conquered
In late June early July there was the case of the tweet from a law firm Baker Small publicly celebrating denying assistance to parents of special needs kids and in particular those ones where parents thought their children would get the assistance.
Council continues to use ‘despicable’ law firm in SEN cases
Loads of councils said they wouldn't work with Baker Small any longer, but Croydon Labour after publicly promising not to, began doing so in under a fortnight. The labour council set the benchmark and now the others Labour + Tory alike will be following suit.
Council continues to use ‘despicable’ law firm in SEN cases
Loads of councils said they wouldn't work with Baker Small any longer, but Croydon Labour after publicly promising not to, began doing so in under a fortnight. The labour council set the benchmark and now the others Labour + Tory alike will be following suit.
Wilf
Slouching towards Billingham
My great uncle got sent to one of those.
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