What's for tea tonight? (#8)

[onenameshelley]

Himself had duck legs in orange sauce, mash, and brocoli and carrots. Myself and the small had sausages instead of duck and proper gravy. jungle madness ice cream for pud.

 

[Epona]

Himself had duck legs in orange sauce, mash, and brocoli and carrots. Myself and the small had sausages instead of duck and proper gravy. jungle madness ice cream for pud.

I read that as duck EGGS in orange sauce and was trying to work out whether I was for or against. Was leaning towards against. Duck LEGS in orange sauce makes much more sense and yes please.

 

[Ming]

Sunday roast at the pub (beef).

 

[Epona]

Sunday roast at the pub (beef).

I feel like I need details, was it good? What were the sides? Was the Yorkshire pud magnificent?
Been a very long time since I had a pub Sunday Roast (and even longer since I had a really good one)

 

[Ming]

I feel like I need details, was it good? What were the sides?
Been a very long time since I had a pub Sunday Roast (and even longer since I had a really good one)

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[Ming]

It's pretty good! This is Vancouver though remember (pre-Covid they had Yorkshire puddings and all the trimmings). It's still good. Mustard rather than horseradish.

 

[Epona]

It's pretty good! This is Vancouver though remember (pre-Covid they had Yorkshire puddings and all the trimmings). It's still good. Mustard rather than horseradish.
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Oh dear. That isn't what I would call a roast dinner really. Glad you enjoyed it though!

I actually don't like horseradish very much (too earthy) but am addicted to mustard, the stronger and fiercer the better (Colmans addiction) so would be wanting a good splodge of mustard.

Don't get me wrong, it looks like a good meal! I would scarf that without hesitation. Just not what I would consider a Sunday Roast

 

[Orang Utan]

how is that not a Sunday roast?

 

[Ming]

Oh dear. That isn't what I would call a roast dinner really. Glad you enjoyed it though!

I actually don't like horseradish very much (too earthy) but am addicted to mustard, the stronger and fiercer the better (Colmans addiction) so would be wanting a good splodge of mustard.

Don't get me wrong, it looks like a good meal! I would scarf that without hesitation. Just not what I would consider a Sunday Roast

I know what you mean. It just scrapes in. Pre Covid this place had a Sunday roast equivalent to any carvery. Then the fun removal machine arrived (Covid). But it's not bad. I don't know if you've seen the Mitchell and Webb skit about 'The Event' and the survivors being on a game show? It's really funny.

 

[Epona]

how is that not a Sunday roast?

If you want an argument then fine let's go for it (happy new year and know that none of this is taken in any seriousness ).

That is meat and 2 veg, NOT a Sunday Roast. Some meat which looks not as rare as I would like for a ROAST joint (if a roast is on offer it should be a roast, not slow cooked or some other method) plus some mashed potatoes and boiled carrots and gravy (and mustard, allegedly).

Where is the Yorkshire pud? Where are the roast spuds? Carrots fine but should technically be another veg on offer too - cabbage, broc, cauli etc.

If I went and PAID for that as a Sunday Roast (note the emphasis on the word paid, if I went round someone's house and was served that I'd be fucking delighted and glad for their hospitality and good food and good company) I'd be fucking aghast!

 

[Epona]

Growing up in the 70s, meat and 2 veg was what you had for school dinners, although they cut the overcooked meat into small pieces so that little kiddies couldn't choke on it, and it was typically served with mash and carrots. "Boiled beef and carrots, boiled beef and carrots" - not that there's anything wrong with that, but it is NOT a Sunday Roast!

(Having said that, the idea of school dinners like we used to have seems like some sort of utopian fever dream in this day and age, but ykwim)

 

[Ming]

Growing up in the 70s, meat and 2 veg was what you had for school dinners, although they cut the overcooked meat into small pieces so that little kiddies couldn't choke on it, and it was typically served with mash and carrots. "Boiled beef and carrots, boiled beef and carrots" - not that there's anything wrong with that, but it is NOT a Sunday Roast!

(Having said that, the idea of school dinners like we used to have seems like some sort of utopian fever dream in this day and age, but ykwim)

The absolute nadir of roast beef is meat with 'tubes'. Veins and blood vessels that hadn't been successfully removed. (vom)

 

[Epona]

The absolute nadir of roast beef is meat with 'tubes'. Veins and blood vessels that hadn't been successfully removed. (vom)

Oh yeah if you have a cut that is likely to involve that sort of thing or sinews or tendons or cartilage, the last thing you want to be doing is roasting it - that is for a stew/casserole method (whether beef in ale, a robust curry, or a tagine etc) cooked for several hours until all the connective tissue breaks down and thickens the gravy - oh god yes and yes again, some of the most delicious meals in the world are the result of slow cooking a bony/sinuous/cartilaginous cut for hours. Roasting it will result in something tough and chewy and inedible!

 

[Ming]

Oh yeah if you have a cut that is likely to involve that sort of thing or sinews or tendons or cartilage, the last thing you want to be doing is roasting it - that is for a stew/casserole cooked for several hours until all the connective tissue breaks down and thickens the gravy - oh god yes and yes again, some of the most delicious meals in the world are the result of slow cooking a bony/sinuous/cartilaginous cut for hours. Roasting it will result in something tough and chewy and inedible!

I'm quite the cook. I love making meals from less than prime cuts. I'm half Irish by blood so my mum taught me how to make proper Irish stew. Neck of lamb bone in for the broth. Cooked in a pressure cooker. No need for Oxo.

 

[Orang Utan]

A Sunday roast dinner is just roast meat (though you can even forego that if you’re a veggie) and spuds and whatever veg you want to add. It’s a very wide remit!

 

[Epona]

A Sunday roast dinner is just roast meat (though you can even forego that if you’re a veggie) and spuds and whatever veg you want to add. It’s a very wide remit!

No it really isn't a wide remit, and you are being weird and argumentative wrt something about which most people have a certain cultural expectation

 

[Orang Utan]

No it really isn't a wide remit, and you are being weird and argumentative wrt something about which most people have a certain cultural expectation

it's always other people who are weird and argumentative, never you. dunno why people cannot have a jolly disagreement with you without you making a mountain of it ffs, dunno why i bothered.

 

[Epona]

We actually possibly need a thread dedicated to this (much like the FEB thread) where we discuss core ingredients and sides, I would actually argue that the main component of a Sunday roast is Roast Spuds - everything else can be switched out but having roast spuds is core. You can have mash or boiled too if you like, you can have different sides that go with the meat (traditionally stuffing with poultry, yorkshires with beef), different sauces (mustard, mint, apple) but if there aren't roasties on the plate and 2 other veg, it isn't a Sunday Roast.

 

[Epona]

it's always other people who are weird and argumentative, never you. dunno why people cannot have a jolly disagreement with you without you making a mountain of it ffs, dunno why i bothered.

Blimey mate I said upthread

If you want an argument then fine let's go for it (happy new year and know that none of this is taken in any seriousness ).

You started it, and you are the one getting worked up about it - seems like you want to say something but not have anyone else dispute what you have said. Peace and love to you. This is inconsequential bullshit and I was just enjoying having a debate with you and thinking it was in fun.

(EDIT: As in I thought both of us were having a fun conversation about food, I didn't realise it had gone past that point for you and I am truly sorry if you are upset by the conversation).

 

[Epona]

Christ well it looks like I well and truly put my foot in it there, sorry folks, that was not the intention.

 

[Epona]

Sorry for being weird.

 

[Epona]

Not the only weirdo on the boards

 

[Epona]

Actually fuck you for trying to belittle me and shame me like that when I didn't start the argument and only joined in with that debate in good faith.

 

[Ming]

We actually possibly need a thread dedicated to this (much like the FEB thread) where we discuss core ingredients and sides, I would actually argue that the main component of a Sunday roast is Roast Spuds - everything else can be switched out but having roast spuds is core. You can have mash or boiled too if you like, you can have different sides that go with the meat (traditionally stuffing with poultry, yorkshires with beef), different sauces (mustard, mint, apple) but if there aren't roasties on the plate and 2 other veg, it isn't a Sunday Roast.

Agreed!

 

[Epona]

I am upset that I let this sort of thing get to me.

But I am NOT the only argumentative weirdo on Urban. And if other people want to call me that, they need to look at their own behaviour in being an argumentative weirdo too and fucking own up to that. I can't have a ridiculous argument by my fucking self, it isn't possible to do so, it always requires at least one other argumentative weirdo and possibly more to join in, it is the involvement of multiple argumentative weirdos that turns stuff into a weird argument, so DON'T BE FUCKING BLAMING ME AS IF I AM THE ONLY FUCKING PARTICIPANT.

 

[Humberto]

Yeah he was off there.

 

[Epona]

Sorry, wrong thread

 

[Mrs Miggins]

I think it's weird that many people seem to insist in roast AND mashed potato with their Sunday roast.

And Yorkshire puddings belong with roast beef only.

 

[Orang Utan]

Yeah he was off there.

Thanks for your contribution

 

[UnderOpenSky]

I think it's weird that many people seem to insist in roast AND mashed potato with their Sunday roast.

And Yorkshire puddings belong with roast beef only.

It's not something that I normally do, but does feel wonderfully decadent when I have it. I see no problems having Yorkshires with Lamb or Pork either!