What stupid shit has Trump done today?
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Yossarian
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That statement in full:
Right-wing press in the US is making a meal of it, attacking "deranged conspiracy theorists" and noting that the company has donated to Biden. Shame CPAC etc. can't reject actual white supremacists as forcefully as they reject alleged connections to rune-shaped stages.
Right-wing press in the US is making a meal of it, attacking "deranged conspiracy theorists" and noting that the company has donated to Biden. Shame CPAC etc. can't reject actual white supremacists as forcefully as they reject alleged connections to rune-shaped stages.
existentialist
Tired and unemotional
Or just not take business from organisations which deny far right connections while blatantly obviously being all about them.
cloudyday
caput mortuum
I suppose moving the discussion to it being 100% deliberate makes it easier to dismiss as conspiracy when there is no evidence otherwise.
My take is a bit more nuanced, i found it's appearance somewhat uncanny.
cloudyday
caput mortuum
this was my take when I posted on the previous page:
I wouldn't rule out coincidence, but then i wouldn't rule out shenanigans or other potential signalling either.
I'll happily admit that I nearly fell off my chair when I first saw it, and thought it was worth posting here under the Trump live feed. However the conspiracy train is not something I wish to either get on or help on it's way, and I wasn't aware of the traction this was getting with the it's 100% deliberate crowd when I first posted it.
the tweets you posted before that 'take' didn't seem very nuanced, but ok.
splonkydoo
Well-Known Member
Lol, speak for yourself mate. Most people with more than a passing knowledge in the far-right know exactly what that symbol is and what it represents. Thinking 'how the fuck did that end up as a stage at a CPAC conference' isn't a conspiracy theory.
Just because twitter is populated with deranged cranks (surprise) doesn't make that question any less reasonable to ask. Using deranged twitter as your pivot point in being right on about things isn't a great look either.
cloudyday
caput mortuum
3 posts.
The first was the original tweet I saw, posted without comment.
The second I wrote ‘someone knows’ which was a direct reply to your ‘no one knows’ regarding knowledge of the symbol, showing examples of the likeness of the image in question.
The third was about an old GFs tattoo.
I suppose the second one could be ambiguous.
splonkydoo
Well-Known Member
Haven't you heard that it is out of bounds to take a measured guess on the probability of something, and end up being wrong about it, because there are unhinged ppl loose on twitter.
splonkydoo
Well-Known Member
I get it. You can't stand it when you or other people are wrong about something.
cloudyday
caput mortuum
The post was effectively a photo that spoke for itself and was directly related to the previous post.
The likeness of the stage in the photo to the symbol in question is not a conspiracy, it is fact. What has become labelled a conspiracy theory is discussion of its appearance being a deliberate act.
I was cynical until I saw just how close the design is. Now I don't think it's a big conspiracy amongst everyone involved but I wouldn't be surprised if someone on the team with dodgy intentions seeded the idea or maybe someone wanted to make the CPAC look bad and suggested it. Amazing that both sides (or none) could be 'guilty' - that's one of the things that Trump introduced - the idea that everything could be incompetence or a dog whistle or 4d chess. It just became impossible to take anything at face value.
The firm behind the design said this - Design firm takes responsibility for CPAC stage controversy - but that doesn't really tell us about the individuals that worked on it.
And that's without all the posts that aren't counted, hidden by the corrupt Urban establishment.
not-bono-ever
meh
MUGA
AnnO'Neemus
Is so vanilla
Looks like SCOTUS isn't coming to trump's aid
Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha
Looks like he's gone full Oompa Loompa now.
NoXion
Craicy the Squirrel
It's quite something, actually. I guess it shows that it's easier to get away with impoverishing Americans, putting kids in cages, and bombing foreigners as a neoliberal Democrat than as a bombastic quasi-fascist Republican.
But hey, the libs have gotten their brunches now, and so they have no reason to give a fuck any more.
I look forward to the electoral shit-show starting up again in 2024, assuming of course that somehow all the broken promises and patrician Democrat sneering at working-class Americans doesn't lead to an upset in the midterms.
Democrats are the Good Cops to the Republican's Bad Cops. How many times does this charade have to play out before Americans realise that they're both fucking cops?
planetgeli
There's no future in England's dreaming
Only came across this today because of Doonesbury. Regardless of the context and invoking Godwin (it is being used because Republicans are saying Trump has learned his lesson) it is a pretty astonishing piece of journalism from the New York Times in 1924.
Link to article in it's full context (i.e the actual page of the newspaper). https://www.snopes.com/uploads/2021/01/Screenshot-2021-01-15-at-16.54.01.png
Text of article reads,
Link to article in it's full context (i.e the actual page of the newspaper). https://www.snopes.com/uploads/2021/01/Screenshot-2021-01-15-at-16.54.01.png
Text of article reads,
Sunray
Its sunny somewhere.
I was only interested in American politics when they went so far off the deep end they ended up in outer space.
Couldn't help but watch.
maomao
普費斯
Hitler was of course in his mid 30s at the time not his mid 70s but I certainly don't think the risk of civil war has decreased any with Biden's election.
spring-peeper
Well-Known Member
Still trying to seem relevant...
Trump Puts Out Sad Statement on Presidential Letterhead Pleading for Credit for COVID Vaccine
“I hope everyone remembers!” the former president wrote of his administration's efforts to support the development of the coronavirus vaccine.
www.thedailybeast.com
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