What stupid shit has Trump done today?

[CRI]

you're amazing I say you have race based politics, you scream its not so and then prove it. BTW- 'brethren'. There are female socialists you know. And POC. I realise for someone who only noticed politics when the bad man won the election that history and indeed modernity are proving difficult to parse but these things are true.




oh you're a fan of immiseration? really? bit off if you ask me.

Uh no. I've never denied that I regard the intersections of oppression and privilege in my analyses and racism forms part of this. I think this is pretty obvious in just about everything I write on here.

My point was you said 'my race based politics' like its something I made up myself rather than a reflection of reality in the AL election.

You still haven't answered what you think the sharp division in votes by race there means if it's not evidence not loyalty to race trumped class solidarity for white people.

And yes I'm aware there are POC and women who back Sanders. "I have comrades who are . . ." Doesn't cut it though.

Most POC don't back Sanders. Have you thought about why or what to do about that? Or are you not really bothered about it?

Also, remember the majority of white women voting in November last year and Alabama on Tuesday chose men with track records of misogyny and sexual assaults. Do just having women in the ranks is no guarantee that systemic misogyny isn't still there.

Black women in particular seem most sceptical about Sanders and 'our revolution' and also the folk most often attacked Sanders' advocates on social media. Your thoughts on this?

 

[DotCommunist]

And yes I'm aware there are POC and women who back Sanders.

i said there are female and POC socialists. Sanders isn't the torchbearer for socialism you know. And no that isn't a 'some of my best friends are' thing, but nice try. Its entirely unspoken and heavily implied in the response bolded (you making up word to put in an imaginary foes mouth). Brethren. So you are still on the white socialist men trip. Look, I don't care what some bellends say on twitter. Thats not the totality of politics but in your world it apparently is. As is this use of great figures 'Sanders doesn't have the support of' and so on..and? their are american socialists of all genders and hue working against the governance they find themselves under but to you they are just bitter white men saying stupid shit on twitter.

which as the malik article posted earlier points out is increasingly becoming the dominant political discourse and trumps leading the way, tiki torch in hand.

 

[DexterTCN]

Please don’t take the piss out of his accent.

He’s clearly stupid, but plenty of intelligent people live in the South.

His accent has nothing to do with the way he emphasises the word, he gave it an importance. I merely recreated it phonetically to point out the stress. Your concept of 'South' means nothing to me, I'm not American.

 

[petee]

Your concept of 'South' means nothing to me, I'm not American.

i don't think you meant to slag his accent, because that is what he sounds like, but for informational purposes: there is a stereotype of southern and particularly southern mountain people being deficient in the IQ department. it happens that my ex-wife and her family are from a one-street town in western NC, her father attended duke and princeton, an uncle was a professor at harvard, and she herself was an honors graduate in greek and latin. but the europeans who settled in the appalachians often lived far distances from each other and marriages could be with the nearest people you could reach who may have been cousins, leading over a few generations to some incidence of idiocy, thus the stereotype. unfortunately it's widespread and persistent.

 

[CRI]

Hmm, well then . . .

Mueller Sought Emails of Trump Campaign Data Firm

Special Counsel Robert Mueller has requested that Cambridge Analytica, a data firm that worked for President Donald Trump’s campaign, turn over documents as part of its investigation into Russian interference in the 2016 U.S. election, according to people familiar with the matter.

 

[CRI]

Some good news.

First-degree murder charge for driver accused of plowing into Charlottesville crowd, killing Heather Heyer

 

[J Ed]

Some good news.

First-degree murder charge for driver accused of plowing into Charlottesville crowd, killing Heather Heyer

You called her a Trump supporter before she was killed by one you fucking ghoul. You are still calling her one, you did it yesterday.

 

[DexterTCN]

Some good news.

First-degree murder charge for driver accused of plowing into Charlottesville crowd, killing Heather Heyer

Unlike second-degree murder, first-degree murder requires the element of premeditation. Authorities said video showing the Dodge backing up rapidly before it accelerated forward toward the crowd is evidence that the crash was intentional, prompting them to upgrade the main charge against Fields.

 

[Dillinger4]

America in 2017: a 24/7 4d circus with no bread

 

[MightyTibberton]

Rumours on twitter that Jared Kushner might be indicted today.

 

[CRI]

You called her a Trump supporter before she was killed by one you fucking ghoul. You are still calling her one, you did it yesterday.

Your pants are on fire bud!

 

[MightyTibberton]

On consequential stuff, I read a lot that possibly the most damaging thing Trump (and the GOP) is doing is ramming through enormous numbers of judicial appointments many of whom are completely unqualified beyond being right-wing nuts.

 

[CRI]

On consequential stuff, I read a lot that possibly the most damaging thing Trump (and the GOP) is doing is ramming through enormous numbers of judicial appointments many of whom are completely unqualified beyond being right-wing nuts.

This absolutely is a problem.

For starters, judicial appointments are for life, so they aren't gone after a term and can't be voted out.

Also, it's the courts that can overturn the stupid unconstitutional executive orders, but they won't if the judges are Trump acolytes.

 

[killer b]

Just digging into this article, which looks like it might be relevant to this thread - interviews and analysis from Montana, where local politics is largely Democrat, but they voted Trump nationally by a big margin.

Can the Democratic Party Be White Working Class, Too?

 

[killer b]

This also is interesting: What actually happened in Alabama? – MattBruenig | Politics

 

[J Ed]

Your pants are on fire bud!

You have spent the past year+ attacking people like Heather Heyer, a socialist who voted for Sanders in the primary and did not vote for Clinton in the general election, as racists, misogynists and Trump supporters. You are almost as vile as you are ignorant.

You put scare quotes around the term economic anxiety, as if working-class women like Heyer do not face that, as if it's all just a big lie. As if people like her did not vote for Clinton because they are bigots.

 

[J Ed]

This also is interesting: What actually happened in Alabama? – MattBruenig | Politics

Interesting article. Unfortunately it looks like the facts will get lost in the slew of comment and opinion from people demonstrating that they are the righteous ones and they are going to get to heaven first.

 

[petee]

Some good news.

First-degree murder charge for driver accused of plowing into Charlottesville crowd, killing Heather Heyer

it's satisfying yes, but they better prove it now. if they fail, he'll be a righwing hero, and heather heyer will still be dead. second-degree would have been a slam-dunk. /IANAL

 

[DexterTCN]

On consequential stuff, I read a lot that possibly the most damaging thing Trump (and the GOP) is doing is ramming through enormous numbers of judicial appointments many of whom are completely unqualified beyond being right-wing nuts.

Weird question at the end.

"Any of you ever blog in support of the KKK?"
"No"
"Let the record reflect everyone said no"

 

[J Ed]

Most POC don't back Sanders. Have you thought about why or what to do about that? Or are you not really bothered about it?


Black women in particular seem most sceptical about Sanders and 'our revolution' and also the folk most often attacked Sanders' advocates on social media. Your thoughts on this?

BTW, this may have been true once but is no longer true. Not that this was anything other than an argument built on dishonest misinformation sand in the first place.

Perspective | It’s time to end the myth that black voters don’t like Bernie Sanders

Last spring, a Harvard-Harris poll found Sanders to be the most popular active politician in the country. African Americans gave the senator the highest favorables at 73 percent — vs. 68 percent among Latinos, 62 percent among Asian Americans and 52 percent among white voters. It wasn’t a fluke: This August, black voters again reported a 73 percent favorability rating for Sanders. Critics, such as Starr, continue to point to the senator’s 2016 primary numbers among older African American voters to claim that his message somehow doesn’t resonate with people of color as a whole — and continue to ignore that, according to GenForward, Sanders won the black millennial vote in the primaries

 

[CRI]

This absolutely is a problem.

For starters, judicial appointments are for life, so they aren't gone after a term and can't be voted out.

Also, it's the courts that can overturn the stupid unconstitutional executive orders, but they won't if the judges are Trump acolytes.

Example.

Trump Judicial Nominee Can't Answer Basic Questions About The Law

 

[Tankus]

Pure Right Wing Cynicism: Breitbart’s Editor-in-Chief Admits They Defended Roy Moore From Child Molestation Accusations to Protect Trump From Sexual Assault Accusations
Charles Johnson
Politics1 hour, 55 minutes ago • Views: 1,192

Here’s as clear a picture of the debased power-hungry cynicism that drives today’s right wing as you will ever see, as Breitbart “News” editor-in-chief Alex Marlow says they went all in to defend Roy Moore and smear his accusers because they believed if they didn’t, Trump would also be vulnerable …

littlegreenfootballs
Breitbart editor-in-chief: We had to defend Roy Moore from child molestation accusations to protect Trump from his accusers

 

[mauvais]

Ah, LGF. I remember when LGF was amongst the worst things on the internet. Happy times!

 

[CRI]

I'm sure this is fine.

Hackers demand ransom for California voter database

 

[Tankus]

Last year’s $9.5 billion in revenue reported by the organization looks preposterous in light of federal filings made by the president in the past year. Those indicate the Trump Organization generates between $600 million and $700 million in annual revenue. Neither Graff nor a Trump Organization spokeswoman responded to requests for comment about the discrepancy
....The average price per square foot for a Trump Tower apartment has fallen by 23% since 2015, according to The Wall Street Journal, while prices have held steady at other Midtown towers, excluding new developments. At the Trump International Hotel and Tower on Central Park West, the average price per square foot is down 24%. A spokeswoman, though, told the Journal that the Trump Organization is “incredibly proud of the overall performance that Trump properties continue to achieve...
..golfers are shunning the Trump Golf Links at Ferry Point in the Bronx, where revenue through mid-September had fallen by more than $1.1 million in the past two years, to $5.7 million, amid a 16% drop in rounds played

.

The Trump Organization sees fortunes fall

Hes making up the revenue with his weekend golfing visits on the tax payers tab

This may relating to trumps reticence over his tax returns ...

.it may be not just Kushner that has imminent cash flow problems ..

666 the number of the street

 

[TheHoodedClaw]

Weird question at the end.

"Any of you ever blog in support of the KKK?"
"No"
"Let the record reflect everyone said no"

Senator Kennedy placed a landmine under someone there, for sure. All is not harmonious in the Republican party it seems.

 

[petee]

Ah, LGF. I remember when LGF was amongst the worst things on the internet. Happy times!

i remember when johnson had his "conversion" experience.

but that link goes to media matters Tankus! tho' lgf has a similar article.

 

[SpackleFrog]

So long as Sanders keeps talking about "ordinary people" and "bread and butter issues" that exclude the people of colour who are at the heart of the Democratic Party (as per yesterday - how soon we forget!), he'll get absolutely fucking nowhere.

Do people of colour not get in to "bread and butter issues" then? Are they not ordinary people?

 

[SpackleFrog]

Most POC don't back Sanders.

How do you know?

 

[CRI]

Do people of colour not get in to "bread and butter issues" then? Are they not ordinary people?

If you're genuinely interested, this explains why particularly African Americans' experience is different because of the pervasiveness of white supremacy.

It starts as a response to former DNC member James Zogby's (a Sanders backer) tweet dismissing the significance of the Alabama election results this week.

Unrolled thread from @leahmcelrath #mustread #YouDontKnowEvangelicals #EmptyThePews #GOPTaxScam