What stupid shit has Trump done today?

[Yossarian]

Well, gracious until the bit implying they must have cheated because postal votes.

Worry this will increase Trump's efforts to surpress black voting. And generally this whole thing that 'fake news'/cheating is becoming more and more of a get-out clause, the way the utter non story of Clinton's emails became a thing by just yelling about it again and again.

I think this probably will cause the Republicans to step up voter suppression efforts - but Trump wasn't talking about postal vote fraud, he was talking about "write-in" votes, where somebody writes in the name of somebody else on the ballot because they don't like the choice of candidates - apparently a lot of Republicans who couldn't stomach voting for Moore did this in Alabama, including the state's Republican senator.

 

[ruffneck23]

Well done, Alabama! Very close mind.

indeed 48% do have very closed minds

 

[MightyTibberton]

Good 'un!

 

[ruffneck23]

 

[CRI]

To be fair, whenever I think of a State full of Racist White People, it's 'bama.

An African (not African-American, African) view:



As I said to her, how likely is it that the Democratic party will learn the appropriate lesson? I'd say it's more likely that they will learn nothing at all.

Uh, the Democratic Party has been consistently fighting voter suppression measures pushed by Republicans including disenfranchisement of ex offenders, but ok.

The lesson here for the Democratic Party is the one I've stated repeatedly. To win, build on your supporter base (waves to all the Black women who work their socks off and get little credit), fight voter supression tooth and claw, and stop wasting time trying to win over those allegedly 'economically anxious' folk when their loyalties firmly rest with their race, not class.

 

[killer b]

stop wasting time trying to win over those allegedly 'economically anxious' folk when their loyalties firmly rest with their race, not class.

Incredible tactics here.

 

[a_chap]

"This was not a referendum on Trump. I feel like it was a referendum on Harvey Weinstein"

 

[Tankus]

Weinstein comes in orange....too

 

[DotCommunist]

Incredible tactics here.

I quite like that poverty is now alleged. Thats a new level of denial.

 

[bimble]

Pass the sick bag:

He's consistently shit on twitter isn't he, especially for a historian you'd expect a bit more in the way of perspective.

 

[killer b]

You'd be hard pressed to call that a 'smile'

 

[butchersapron]

Uh, the Democratic Party has been consistently fighting voter suppression measures pushed by Republicans including disenfranchisement of ex offenders, but ok.

The lesson here for the Democratic Party is the one I've stated repeatedly. To win, build on your supporter base (waves to all the Black women who work their socks off and get little credit), fight voter supression tooth and claw, and stop wasting time trying to win over those allegedly 'economically anxious' folk when their loyalties firmly rest with their race, not class.

Your whole position is based on race not class. You're a dolezal.

 

[Cloo]

Ah, my error Yossarian , but all the same I guess we're going to see huffing and puffing about the outcome!

 

[nemoanonemo]

Well, gracious until the bit implying they must have cheated because postal votes.

Worry this will increase Trump's efforts to surpress black voting. And generally this whole thing that 'fake news'/cheating is becoming more and more of a get-out clause, the way the utter non story of Clinton's emails became a thing by just yelling about it again and again.

Moore would have been deselected by anyone else but the GOP is so holding up the line that mainstream media lies about everything pertaining to them (despite it winning them the Whitehouse with *their* massive lie about the Clinton emails), that they couldn't act as though any of the allegations were true.

I don't think he was writing about postal votes in his tweet. According to Wikipedia:

A write-in candidate is a candidate in an election whose name does not appear on the ballot, but for whom voters may vote nonetheless by writing in the person's name.

He is blaming Republican voters who couldn't stomach voting for Moore.

I agree with you, however, it won't be long before he moves on to the 'fake news' angle.

 

[MightyTibberton]

You only have to go back a page in this thread to see the polls showing a huge racial divide in voting from the exit polls for this election.

I'm sure it's not everything. I'm sure class isn't everything. I'm sure economics isn't everything.

But it would seem that race is definitely a part of why poor white people are choosing to vote for a man in a golden elevator who is taking away their health care and giving enormous tax cuts to billionaires.

 

[ruffneck23]

Donald Trump responds after humiliating Alabama defeat

Says he knew Moore wasnt going to win and was right ??? WTAF ?

 

[Idris2002]

Uh, the Democratic Party has been consistently fighting voter suppression measures pushed by Republicans including disenfranchisement of ex offenders, but ok.

The lesson here for the Democratic Party is the one I've stated repeatedly. To win, build on your supporter base (waves to all the Black women who work their socks off and get little credit), fight voter supression tooth and claw, and stop wasting time trying to win over those allegedly 'economically anxious' folk when their loyalties firmly rest with their race, not class.

What has the DP done to fight voter suppression then? Because whatever it is, the Republicans are still pushing through with their voter disenfranchisement activities, and after their defeat in Alabama they're going to step them up even further.

Interesting thing on what was different on the ground in Alabama compared to last year:

 

[Dogsauce]

What has the DP done to fight voter suppression then? Because whatever it is, the Republicans are still pushing through with their voter disenfranchisement activities, and after their defeat in Alabama they're going to step them up even further.

Interesting thing on what was different on the ground in Alabama compared to last year:

That's similar to tactics that helped Labour in last year's general, superior numbers on the ground engaging directly with voters. Worth doing it seems.

 

[gosub]

That's similar to tactics that helped Labour in last year's general, superior numbers on the ground engaging directly with voters. Worth doing it seems.

they outspent the republicans 10:1 -cant do that on large scale

 

[Cloo]

Donald Trump responds after humiliating Alabama defeat

Says he knew Moore wasnt going to win and was right ??? WTAF ?

The man is pathologically incapable of admitting he's wrong about anything.

 

[gosub]

The man is pathologically incapable of admitting he's wrong about anything.

tbf: He didn't back him in the Primary..its Bannon that lots the bigger twat

 

[Idris2002]

That's similar to tactics that helped Labour in last year's general, superior numbers on the ground engaging directly with voters. Worth doing it seems.

They didn't do it in 2016, though. And any attempt to replicate on a national scale, without the threat of a paedophile candidate to address, will have to address the bread-and-butter issues Sanders emphasized. Can the clique of oligarchs in control of the DP do that? Could they do it, even if they wanted to?

 

[DaveCinzano]

A shame Cooper is going down the “o noez mi phone wor haxx0red!11!1” route

 

[redsquirrel]

I'm sure it's not everything. I'm sure class isn't everything. I'm sure economics isn't everything.

But it would seem that race is definitely a part of why poor white people are choosing to vote for a man in a golden elevator who is taking away their health care and giving enormous tax cuts to billionaires.

Even if all that was true, does that make it necessary or desirable to construct a politics based on race?

 

[MightyTibberton]

Even if all that was true, does that make it necessary or desirable to construct a politics based on race?

I'm not constructing anything - I'm a nobody in south Wales. It is constructed.

 

[redsquirrel]

I'm not constructing anything - I'm a nobody in south Wales. It is constructed.

CRI is, she's specifically said that she want's the Democrats to design their politics (even more) around race rather than class. That's an appalling position and butchers summary is utterly apt.

 

[MightyTibberton]

Then I'm sure CRI is perfectly able to speak for herself in the constructive and well-mannered dialogue you are about to engage in.

 

[J Ed]

Then I'm sure CRI is perfectly able to speak for herself in the constructive and well-mannered dialogue you are about to engage in.

No she isn't.

 

[MightyTibberton]

Well that's the end of that then.

Great post. Keep it up...

 

[bimble]

It is getting boring now. But mainly what i get from the endless repetition of his idiotic daytime tv tweets about the Maedia is that nobody around him is able to tell him to stop and reconsider, that's a bit worrying.