SpookyFrank
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And not at all if she suspends, what, two tory MPs?
Westminster sexual abuse scandals
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And not at all if she suspends, what, two tory MPs?
DotCommunist
So many particulars. So many questions.
coming so soon after they put that terrible paedo scandal behind them and declared nothing to see here cos their all dead as well. What will people think of our once-proud parliament 
ViolentPanda
Hardly getting over it.
Yep, they can be disciplined for "bringing the party into disrepute".
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ViolentPanda
Hardly getting over it.
You just know, looking at a picture of Mark Garnier, that he probably use those "sex toys" on himself. 
Wilf
Slouching towards Billingham
Even parliament itself is falling to bits. In fact there's their answer! If any of the more rapey, noncey MPs are close to being outed they can spirit them away to South America and pretend a crumbling gargoyle crushed them to death.coming so soon after they put that terrible paedo scandal behind them and declared nothing to see here cos their all dead as well. What will people think of our once-proud parliament
Important Notice: I have gifted you the notion of being 'crushed by a crumbling parliamentary gargoyle'. Make of it what you will and the likes will flow in! However Soames is already the wardrobe man, so you'll have to work a bit harder.
Winot
I wholeheartedley agree with your viewpoint
I heard about 2 minutes of a R4 thing last night when driving (the Westminster Hour, I think). There were a couple of female MPs, one of whom sounded like Caroline Flint, talking a lot of sense (
* admittedly I'd turned it off by then, so they might have gone on to a more robust solution.
I heard it too - I think it was Lucy Powell and Anna Soubry.
Evening Standard is interesting today - apparently there were lots of fixes proposed but they were all blocked by e.g. 1922 Committee.
Revealed: Senior Tories blocked bid to shield staff from sex pest MPs
She's waiting for Corbo to tell her what to do, as per.
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
Kaka Tim
Half Arsed and Slapdash till I Die
worth pointing out that the only way that these mps can be forced out of their seats is if they are sent to prison - they can be expelled from the party but they would still be mps.
If tory mps do have the whip withdrawn - they could threaten to resign and force a bi-eleciton - which the government obviously wants like a hole in the head.
given this - i think May will be very reluctant to expel any mps unless she has absolutely no choice.
Agree that it has similarities with the expenses scandal - so, despite their being offenders on sides - it may well hurt the government more than the opposition.
If tory mps do have the whip withdrawn - they could threaten to resign and force a bi-eleciton - which the government obviously wants like a hole in the head.
given this - i think May will be very reluctant to expel any mps unless she has absolutely no choice.
Agree that it has similarities with the expenses scandal - so, despite their being offenders on sides - it may well hurt the government more than the opposition.
Fingers
From Tuscany SE22
Hold onto your hats for a blackmail scandal
Theresa May's former Communications Director Kate Perrior has made an explosive allegation that instead of punishing the misconduct of Tory MPs, the Tory whips use knowledge of incidents like degenerate behaviour and sexual harassment to blackmail MPs into towing the party line.
Here's exactly what she told BBC Breakfast:
"The information is held by the whips, because they use it to make sure that MPs know that other people within the party know exactly what they’ve been up to, and that behaviour either is not acceptable, or it will be used against them – you will vote in a certain way or we will tell your wife exactly what you’ve been up to."
The Tory party systematically blackmail their depraved MPs into subservience
Theresa May's former Communications Director Kate Perrior has made an explosive allegation that instead of punishing the misconduct of Tory MPs, the Tory whips use knowledge of incidents like degenerate behaviour and sexual harassment to blackmail MPs into towing the party line.
Here's exactly what she told BBC Breakfast:
"The information is held by the whips, because they use it to make sure that MPs know that other people within the party know exactly what they’ve been up to, and that behaviour either is not acceptable, or it will be used against them – you will vote in a certain way or we will tell your wife exactly what you’ve been up to."
The Tory party systematically blackmail their depraved MPs into subservience
This sort of thing is hardly news though is it? This is what whips do.
elbows
Well-Known Member
That view of how the whips work has long been part of popular culture, and denials have always been weak. Hopefully it won't be brushed aside this time.
elbows
Well-Known Member
Need some specific examples to go public, which could force change rather than allow this state of affairs to continue.
elbows
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Orang Utan
Psychick Worrier Ov Geyoor
Of course May and other senior MPs will have known about this, especially whips. I'm sure they've used this info for leverage in the past.
Well yes, covering up for infidelity and the like is pretty standard. If the whips have been aware of actual abuse and they have chosen to not pass that info on then that is obviously more serious.
DotCommunist
So many particulars. So many questions.
I suspect the child sex stuff as well. We know cyril smith was nicked in northamptonshire with a boot of wrong, and as I recall the reporting some policemen came down from london to collect him. Stinks
don't want to be too tinfoil but it smells.
and Kincora
don't want to be too tinfoil but it smells.
and Kincora
ruffneck23
front left
See 4 posts above yours
elbows
Well-Known Member
Well the Cyril Smith part of the public inquiry recently finished, I was disappointed that I only had time to follow it properly for a couple of days, and there was no proper conversation about it here.
I don't know what I missed. Probably not much when it came to the broader stuff away from the homes in Rochdale. But one thing I did see, in relation to MI5 being aware that the director of public prosecutions later lied about the Smith case to a journalist, was that MI5s excuse for not doing anything was along the lines of 'back then our mission was just defence of the realm'.
elbows
Well-Known Member
Not convinced thats what they will attempt this time, given broader momentum in society about these issues right now, some heads must roll sooner rather than later.
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
yeh leadsom's just farted
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
yeh. nor shall there be, for as long as may retains command.
Wilf
Slouching towards Billingham
Dreaming of a wheatfield, far far away.
Wilf
Slouching towards Billingham
I don't want to reduce this to party advantage, but Corbyn would be well advised to take rapid action against any of his MPs who get credible accusations against them. As well as being a good idea in itself - to sideline the more creepy, gropey fuckers - it would put the pressure on May to act.
Wilf
Slouching towards Billingham
Given that garnier pretty much admitted it, there was certainly scope to suspend him straightaway. 'High jinx', ffs! Creepy cunt.
Brainaddict
slight system overdrive
Not very surprising is it? I saw a comment on twitter to the effect that the braying, blokeish atmosphere of the commons could be seen as a bit of an indicator of the attitudes held by many there. I'm very interested to see how this develops. On the one hand there's a lot of momentum behind uncovering sexual assault right now and there could be a high price for further cover-ups that then get exposed. On the other hand taking action on it could literally destabilise the government, so a lot of work will probably go into suppressing it all. A lot of minds busy whirring on the best way out right now...
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