Wayne Couzens: A Question

[starfish2000]

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Im just curious. This guy seems to have been in the Police for five minutes and yet seemingly had quite a responsible job. I thought the sort of officers doing diplomatic protection work would have been very experienced. I always thought the route to anything like that would be like a five to eight year career path. Yet he joined off the street in 2018?

Am I missing something?

 

[Poot]

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Im just curious. This guy seems to have been in the Police for five minutes and yet seemingly had quite a responsible job. I thought the sort of officers doing diplomatic protection work would have been very experienced. I always thought the route to anything like that would be like a five to eight year career path. Yet he joined off the street in 2018?

Am I missing something?

That's interesting. Where did you hear that he joined so recently?

 

[bimble]

i think he's been a police for a decade

 

[killer b]

It does say he joined in 2018 in the news story I read earlier, the same thing occurred to me

 

[bimble]

Joined the Met in 2018, previously since 2011 a police ' based at Dungeness '.

 

[LDC]

Says he joined the Metropolitan Police in 2018, not clear if from another force, or if he had a background in some other uniformed service given his age, and he was in the reserve armed forces so had firearms experience. He just guarded buildings though, wasn't like a bodyguard or anything from what I've seen.

Probably served in something like this Civil Nuclear Constabulary or the MOD plod.

 

[starfish2000]

Ahhhh it’s the news reports. They’ve skewed it. He joined the police in 2011. Moved to the met in 2018. But they kept going on about him being a mechanic. Doh .

Sorry Folks. Feel free to delete.

 

[xenon]

According to this, he was in the Civil Nuclear Police before 2018.
Wayne Couzens: Police officer charged with kidnap and murder - BelfastTelegraph.co.uk

 

[brogdale]

Probably served in something like this Civil Nuclear Constabulary or the MOD plod.

Yep, they're firearms trained.

 

[Treacle Toes]

Ahhhh it’s the news reports. They’ve skewed it. He joined the police in 2011. Moved to the met in 2018. But they kept going on about him being a mechanic. Doh .

Sorry Folks. Feel free to delete.

I've wondered about the fact they've said little about her police service before 2018 and keep referring back to him being a mechanic. What prompted the move to his current post?

 

[bimble]

ugh i've just read some of those things you get when journos knock on the murderer's neighbour's doors, eg) " I can't believe it, their children go to a local school, they have a pug dog. " etc.

 

[LDC]

I've wondered about the fact they've said little about her police service before 2018 and keep referring back to him being a mechanic. What prompted the move to his current post?

People move jobs the whole time, guess we'll find out in due course.

 

[1927]

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Im just curious. This guy seems to have been in the Police for five minutes and yet seemingly had quite a responsible job. I thought the sort of officers doing diplomatic protection work would have been very experienced. I always thought the route to anything like that would be like a five to eight year career path. Yet he joined off the street in 2018?

Am I missing something?

I thought exactly the same, seems bizarre he's risen so quickly through the ranks. Maybe some sort of accelerated graduate scheme.

 

[1927]

Joined the Met in 2018, previously since 2011 a police ' based at Dungeness '.

that explains it.

 

[LDC]

He hasn't risen though the ranks. He guarded buildings with the Met in London, and had previously served with the armed nuclear cops, so it's not a surprising job change.

 

[StoneRoad]

Joined the Met in 2018, previously since 2011 a police ' based at Dungeness '.

Almost certainly from the "civil nuclear constabulary" and they are fire-arm trained .

The Cumbria Shooting spree (by a chap called Bird) in June 2010 ; part of the CNC from Sellafield took part in the search. Bird shot himself, but given the violence of his spree (12 dead 11 others wounded) if he had turned up at Sellafield or the CNC had got to him, then they would have returned fire.

 

[Bahnhof Strasse]

I thought the same thing, but seems he was in the nuclear plod, we went to Dungeness a couple of weeks ago and I mentioned these people to Frau Bahn; armed, only ever work in a tiny area and never see any action at all, must send you doolally...

 

[planetgeli]

I thought the same thing, but seems he was in the nuclear plod, we went to Dungeness a couple of weeks ago and I mentioned these people to Frau Bahn; armed, only ever work in a tiny area and never see any action at all, must send you doolally...

That is the exact definition of doolally (from a British army transit camp in India). Well played Sir.

A*

 

[LDC]

What'll be interesting (and likely horrible) is finding out more of his history re: offending. Seems highly unlikely this is something that's happened with no previous offences (found out or not).

 

[Treacle Toes]

People move jobs the whole time, guess we'll find out in due course.

Yes but they keep reporting the job he did years ago and not the one before this one.

 

[LDC]

Shit reporting, lazy journalists?

 

[eatmorecheese]

That is the exact definition of doolally (from a British army transit camp in India). Well played Sir.

A*

Yep, corruption of Deolali, near Nasik, Maharashtra. #tangent

 

[danny la rouge]

I know this is of huge importance, but now that he’s been named and charged, I wonder if it’s best not to say anything that might jeopardise the case.

 

[StoneRoad]

I thought the same thing, but seems he was in the nuclear plod, we went to Dungeness a couple of weeks ago and I mentioned these people to Frau Bahn; armed, only ever work in a tiny area and never see any action at all, must send you doolally...

They might only work in a small area (not counting Sellafield's 1000+ buildings in 265 hectares !) but they usually know the majority of staff (& their cars by sight). One regular training activity is to act out various scenarios ... someone i know once parked a borrowed car in an unusual place at one of these establishments, when they went back to it by a less authorised route, the security team almost jumped him ...

 

[DaveCinzano]

PC Simon Harwood sidestepped disciplinary proceedings after a long string of complaints about misconduct and violence by retiring from the Met on health grounds, then rejoining three days later as a civilian worker. After twenty months pushing keyboards down steps he joined Surrey Police as a constable, transferring back to the Met after eighteen months - with no follow up on his previous thuggery - where he clocked up a bunch more complaints for violence, before finally killing Ian Tomlinson in 2009. Whilst he did eventually - after much prevarication by the CPS under Starmer - face trial for manslaughter, he was acquitted. The only 'punishment' he faced was getting sacked off by the Met.

 

[kenny g]

Has anyone else noticed that with the name Wayne Couzins radio announcers are taking particular care to not call him a Wayne ker. Suspect his schoolmates may not have been so considerate.

 

[krtek a houby]

Has anyone else noticed that with the name Wayne Couzins radio announcers are taking particular care to not call him a Wayne ker. Suspect his schoolmates may not have been so considerate.

Haven't noticed at all. The surnames sound completely different.

 

[Riklet]

As mentioned before, id be amazed if the recent flashing stuff wasnt the tip of the iceburg. Very likely he's been up to other dodginess/abuse of power shit before.

Still... quite a jump to kidnap and murder maybe.

 

[Yossarian]

I thought the same thing, but seems he was in the nuclear plod, we went to Dungeness a couple of weeks ago and I mentioned these people to Frau Bahn; armed, only ever work in a tiny area and never see any action at all, must send you doolally...

I saw somewhere that he was part of the Strategic Escort Group that escorted nuclear material around the country but was demoted to guarding the power station after failing a fitness test.

 

[hitmouse]

PC Simon Harwood sidestepped disciplinary proceedings after a long string of complaints about misconduct and violence by retiring from the Met on health grounds, then rejoining three days later as a civilian worker. After twenty months pushing keyboards down steps he joined Surrey Police as a constable, transferring back to the Met after eighteen months - with no follow up on his previous thuggery - where he clocked up a bunch more complaints for violence, before finally killing Ian Tomlinson in 2009. Whilst he did eventually - after much prevarication by the CPS under Starmer - face trial for manslaughter, he was acquitted. The only 'punishment' he faced was getting sacked off by the Met.

I wonder whatever happened to the cop who was in charge of shooting de Menezes?