Vaccine trials

[Riklet]

Good luck. But why is this thread in this forum?

 

[gentlegreen]

Good luck. But why is this thread in this forum?

it's interesting to compare a different AstraZeneca vaccine and Ebola makes a nice change form Covid

 

[Riklet]

it's interesting to compare a different AstraZeneca vaccine and Ebola makes a nice change form Covid

Fair enough. This is a forum about Covid-19. We have a forum for health matters.

Good luck Froggy and hope they pay you some decent money!

 

[frogwoman]

Fair enough. This is a forum about Covid-19. We have a forum for health matters.

Good luck Froggy and hope they pay you some decent money!

Because vaccines have been discussed a lot on this forum? I don't mind if it gets moved tho.

 

[8ball]

How is the ebola going?
Any bleeding from the eyes?
Rage and thirst for blood?
Mild soreness at injection site?

 

[Agent Sparrow]

frogwoman well done you. You are a hero
Also if you ever choose to use it, there’s potential to wind up some antivaxxers I’m sure

 

[Aladdin]

Huge respect for people who join vaccine and medicine trials.

 

[frogwoman]

How is the ebola going?
Any bleeding from the eyes?
Rage and thirst for blood?
Mild soreness at injection site?

Tbh I think I've escaped the worst of it, was fully expecting to feel like I had flu.m

 

[gentlegreen]

Tbh I think I've escaped the worst of it, was fully expecting to feel like I had flu.m

I forgot - did you have two doses of AZ Covid ? - And was that an issue for this trial ?

 

[frogwoman]

I forgot - did you have two doses of AZ Covid ? - And was that an issue for this trial ?

No I had Pfizer. You can't do this trial if you've had AZ

 

[8ball]

No I had Pfizer. You can't do this trial if you've had AZ

Why is that?

 

[frogwoman]

I don't know, it's done from the same method so I guess might complicate the results etc

 

[8ball]

I don't know, it's done from the same method so I guess might complicate the results etc

Yeah, maybe they have concerns about immunity to the adenovirus vector messing with things.
I’d think this would be something they’ll get onto testing later. A lot of people have had the AZ Covid vaccine and they won’t want to be limited by that. Assuming they don’t already have data on that obv.

 

[gentlegreen]

Aha so an AstraZeneca virgin ...
My first dose entertained me for 5 days off and on - but it manifested within a few hours.

 

[frogwoman]

They have taken loads of blood, the last time I was there they took like 7 samples

 

[8ball]

They have taken loads of blood, the last time I was there they took like 7 samples

As in 7 little vials or you got jabbed 7 times?

 

[frogwoman]

As in 7 vials.

 

[frogwoman]

Why do they need all this? On the actual day of the vaccine it was like 12!

 

[8ball]

Why do they need all this? On the actual day of the vaccine it was like 12!

Kidneys, liver, clotting factors, sugar, full counts of each cell type, endocrine, immunology, gases, CR-P, thyroid yada yada...

 

[frogwoman]

As in 7 little vials or you got jabbed 7 times?

They did explain what it was for but I don't really understand why they have to take so much lol. I guess how many antibodies there are X number of weeks after the jab?

 

[frogwoman]

Kidneys, liver, clotting factors, sugar, full counts of each cell type, endocrine, immunology, gases, CR-P, thyroid yada yada...

Yeah some they said was for a safety thing, so if something was abnormal they'd tell me/the GP. I thought they were just looking at antibodies and t cells but I guess they need other things as well.

 

[8ball]

They did explain what it was for but I don't really understand why they have to take so much lol. I guess how many antibodies there are X number of weeks after the jab?

At this phase, some of the original 12 will be baseline measures of a load of things they might not expect to look at again, but that they may want to test again if you get a specific symptom.

 

[8ball]

Yeah some they said was for a safety thing, so if something was abnormal they'd tell me/the GP. I thought they were just looking at antibodies and t cells but I guess they need other things as well.

It's a free MOT.

 

[frogwoman]

That makes sense, I thought they were just looking at antibodies and t cells though. They said that we'd all get a copy of the paper that was written up on the vaccine at the end of the study.

 

[frogwoman]

Obviously I don't want to catch Ebola but I'm very curious to see if it works.

 

[8ball]

That makes sense, I thought they were just looking at antibodies and t cells though. They said that we'd all get a copy of the paper that was written up on the vaccine at the end of the study.

It's testing immune response, but it's also testing safety, so they'll want evidence that it hasn't messed with anyone's liver, HbA1c, kidneys etc. etc. etc. by the end of the study.
They'll also be keeping an eye on platelets - that has been a marker for issues with the AZ vaccine iirc.