urban Lib Dem voters! What do you think of what's going on?
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littlebabyjesus
one of Maxwell's demons
Hmmm. I suspect that poll. What question was asked, exactly?
Mr Moose
What the hell are we supposed to tell the kids?
Yeh you can; For poncing around pretending to be principled and pretending he offers change.
When what we will get is Conservatism and perhaps in return Vince will get a photocopying job in the cabinet.
Fedayn
Well-Known Member
Ah, the postman, who left school at 15, and as far as I'm aware has had no further education.
You really are a nasty piece of work aren't you? He was orphaned at 12, brought up by his older sister and left school at 15 to stack shelves to help bring in money to the household. What would you have done in that position?
Fedayn
Well-Known Member
You're a bit stupid aren't you? Labour and the Lib Dems combined vote was 52%.
Ah, the postman, who left school at 15, and as far as I'm aware has had no further education.
And yet, far, far more successful (and well off) than you.
I would imagine most Urban Libdem voters feel a bit stupid, which is about how they should feel.
I imagine many are also gutted that the Libdem surge was actually a fantasy as many on here predicted.
In Britain (excluding a handful of Welsh and Scottish seats) there are only ever 3 options - Tory, Labour, or don't bother voting.
Mr Moose
What the hell are we supposed to tell the kids?
Though only 65% voted, so if you ask the voters (whether they voted or not) that's probably true, esp post Labour losing.
We'll have to try to avoid killing hundreds of thousands next time and running an unelected leader who calls his own voters names behind their backs..
Fedayn
Well-Known Member
But non voters aren't counted in the votes, so clapham boy is clearly wrong and markedly so.
claphamboy
The wheels on the bus go round and round....
I said 'basically', as in the majority do not want a failed Labour government returned - with or without LibDem support.
Better to be a bit stupid, than a total fuckwit.
The Tory/Lib Dem combined vote was 59%, which proportionally trumps anything else on offer.
butchersapron
Bring back hanging
What are the other figures then? Where's the poll?
You're moving into supporting a whig/tory alliance rather than describing it as most likely.
You're moving into supporting a whig/tory alliance rather than describing it as most likely.
This parliament you div - you don't need a "moral" majority, just a workable one.
littlebabyjesus
one of Maxwell's demons
What was the question, though?
Did it specify that Gordon Brown would be Labour leader?
FWIW, I predict that Brown will announce he has resigned as Labour leader by early next week.
claphamboy
The wheels on the bus go round and round....
No idea, I only caught that figure as I passed the living room, I can’t find a link yet – I am sure it will show up on google soon enough.
More a case of resigned to it, as I was well before election day when I didn't think for one moment the Tories would end-up with so many seats.
Fedayn
Well-Known Member
Better to be a bit stupid, than a total fuckwit.
The Tory/Lib Dem combined vote was 59%, which proportionally trumps anything else on offer.
You said it was 30%, it clearly wasn't. But carry on.....
Who's the fuckwit?
claphamboy
The wheels on the bus go round and round....
Again, better to be a div than a fuckwit.
The LibDems stand for PR - the idea of a true, or moral, majority of those elected working together to form a government.
Even if you throw that principle out and go with a workable majority in the present parliament under the present system:
1 - Tory/LibDem agreement - workable majority.
2 - Lab/LibDem agreement - no majority.
3 - Lab/LibDem/Green/Nats/etc. - a majority, but not workable.
How things could have been different if the LibDems had ended-up with 80-90 seats.
gentlegreen
I hummus, therefore I am ...
fuck offAny cunt who voted Lib Dem thinking it would keep the Tories out.
claphamboy
The wheels on the bus go round and round....
No I didn't, the poll said 30%, not me.
I said that basically reflects the election, i.e. a majority doesn't support a Labour government.
Fedayn
Well-Known Member
A majority doesn't support a Conservative government. It doesn't 'basically support' what you contend at all.
butchersapron
Bring back hanging
If no lib-dem voters at all support a lib/lab coalition.
How likely do you think this is?
_angel_
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And quite hypocritical as well, as someone that he approved of in that position would have been praised for pulling themselves up out by their bootstraps etc etc etc
claphamboy
The wheels on the bus go round and round....
Have I said a majority supports a Tory government?
No I have not, so please don't try and suggest I have.
littlebabyjesus
one of Maxwell's demons
You've got something wrong, claphamboy – either the figure, or by quoting a dodgy poll out of context.
Admit it gracefully.
Admit it gracefully.
claphamboy
The wheels on the bus go round and round....
You seem to have got your maths in a muddle, want to try again?
Proper Tidy
Arsed
We should have a liberal amnesty.
Everybody who voted Liberal can come forward and admit they're a bit of a twat. We get to poke them with sticks for a while.
Everybody who voted Liberal can come forward and admit they're a bit of a twat. We get to poke them with sticks for a while.
butchersapron
Bring back hanging
I haven't. I really haven't Look closely.
claphamboy
The wheels on the bus go round and round....
You've got something wrong, claphamboy – either the figure, or by quoting a dodgy poll out of context.
Admit it gracefully.
The poll says about 30% supports a Lib/Lab government.
48% supports a Lib/Tory government.
That basically reflects the election result, i.e. more support a Lib/Tory agreement than a Lib/Lab agreement - I've got nothing wrong at all.
Interesting that 66% said Brown should have resigned on Friday and 62% support electoral reform.
It's a yougov poll BTW, still not online from what I can see.
butchersapron
Bring back hanging
What else does the poll say that undermines your own vacuous pro-democracy position?
littlebabyjesus
one of Maxwell's demons
What did the other 22% say?
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