Undercover policing enquiry

[Pickman's model]

“The only kind of advice I would give them was fatherly advice like not taking drugs, not getting involved in mischief, not getting illnesses...”

That sort of illness

 

[teqniq]

Fuck Mitting:

 

[ska invita]

Just saw this shared
Dave Morris's Closing Statement (for Tranche 1 of the Inquiry), 21 February 2023

See from 2hrs 25mins and 20sec in, until the end..
- how the spycops scandal was exposed
- what campaigning is all about and what we are trying to achieve
- how those who control our society are the real extremists
- how and why I was targeted since the mid-1970s (as part of the infiltration and reporting on over 1,000 organisations)
- what everyone now knows about this scandal
- what the Inquiry's 'Core Participants' are demanding

The first 2 hours is also very powerful, with a lawyer summing up the horrendous targeting of women for fraudulent abusive relationships by spycops in order to gather information

 

[savoloysam]

<edited now seen>

 

[likesfish]

Collaborated with Mi5.
“Oh god those fuckwits from the sds have turned up, quickly hide the good biscuits” was probably the real spooks attitude as they never provided any useful “intel” on anything

 

[DaveCinzano]

Collaborated with Mi5.
“Oh god those fuckwits from the sds have turned up, quickly hide the good biscuits” was probably the real spooks attitude as they never provided any useful “intel” on anything

Though TBF the Box was represented in such interactions by the likes of David Shayler, so all round something of a rhapsody in shit.

 

[Pickman's model]

Though TBF the Box was represented in such interactions by the likes of David Shayler, so all round something of a rhapsody in shit.

Not many people can have known they were dealing with the messiah at the time

 

[Ming]

I feel a sense of pride that Urban got a spy cop once. I mean it’s shit in the ‘free western democratic’ (rofl) Stasi sense of things but there you go.

 

[Boris Sprinkler]

I feel a sense of pride that Urban got a spy cop once. I mean it’s shit in the ‘free western democratic’ (rofl) Stasi sense of things but there you go.

just the one?

 

[ska invita]

and could still be ones now - i have my suspicions!

 

[likesfish]

and could still be ones now - i have my suspicions!

Unfortunately it’s not me be quite handy as a side gig post shite on urban read shite deliver a weekly report to my shady masters cheers easy .
It’s probably used as a punishment if going through 4chan is considered too harsh.

 

[kenny g]

Unfortunately it’s not me be quite handy as a side gig post shite on urban read shite deliver a weekly report to my shady masters cheers easy .
It’s probably used as a punishment if going through 4chan is considered too harsh.

Maybe we are being used as a practice space for rookie spooks to hone division and diversion tactics.

 

[kenny g]

Just saw this shared
Dave Morris's Closing Statement (for Tranche 1 of the Inquiry), 21 February 2023

See from 2hrs 25mins and 20sec in, until the end..
- how the spycops scandal was exposed
- what campaigning is all about and what we are trying to achieve
- how those who control our society are the real extremists
- how and why I was targeted since the mid-1970s (as part of the infiltration and reporting on over 1,000 organisations)
- what everyone now knows about this scandal
- what the Inquiry's 'Core Participants' are demanding

The first 2 hours is also very powerful, with a lawyer summing up the horrendous targeting of women for fraudulent abusive relationships by spycops in order to gather information

Just watching Dave's submission. Really powerful.

 

[Pickman's model]

He's 'hiding in plain site' by making his initial statement to the Inquiry under the name 'Creamer'. The cunning devil

roy creamer born q3 1930 in goole - don't know why they redacted his dob in the statement, anyone with freebmd can order a copy of his birth certificate using the information volume 9c, page 1454. mother's maiden name armitage, btw

 

[Lurdan]

roy creamer born q3 1930 in goole - don't know why they redacted his dob in the statement, anyone with freebmd can order a copy of his birth certificate using the information volume 9c, page 1454. mother's maiden name armitage, btw

Operating under his actual name is the kind of superior "trade craft" that only someone with serious ninja skills in secret squirrel would think of

 

[redcogs]

roy creamer born q3 1930 in goole - don't know why they redacted his dob in the statement, anyone with freebmd can order a copy of his birth certificate using the information volume 9c, page 1454. mother's maiden name armitage, btw

i love the sound of a "hotbed of anarchists" - the 'Lamb and Flag'.. those were the days

 

[Pickman's model]

i love the sound of a "hotbed of anarchists" - the 'Lamb and Flag'.. those were the days

my friend, we thought they'd never end

 

[redcogs]

Ahh, you missed out "my friend" - assuming you had the Mary Hopkin song in mind..

Does the Lamb and Flag still exist btw?

 

[Pickman's model]

Ahh, you missed out "my friend" - assuming you had the Mary Hopkin song in mind..

Does the Lamb and Flag still exist btw?

put it in now got no idea if it's still there

 

[Fozzie Bear]

Ahh, you missed out "my friend" - assuming you had the Mary Hopkin song in mind..

Does the Lamb and Flag still exist btw?

https://www.lambandflagcoventgarden.co.uk/about

Seems so! Needs an update to that page though...

 

[redcogs]

What an attractive looking facade!. Bare knuckle fighting as well as a hotbed of anarchy! Time for a reclaiming exercise i reckon!

 

[redcogs]

you southern anarchists need to get your act together and get down there complete with unfurled black and red flags. 'Fifteen pints of your finest buckets of blood landlord' The word EACH should be enough to convince the proprietor of the value of an anarchist customer base

 

[Lurdan]

you southern anarchists need to get your act together and get down there complete with unfurled black and red flags. 'Fifteen pints of your finest buckets of blood landlord' The word EACH should be enough to convince the proprietor of the value of an anarchist customer base

Yeah, but it's not just the drinks is it - have to sort the bar snacks out as well.

 

[_Russ_]

and could still be ones now - i have my suspicions!

Oh c'mon, Dead cert......... one thing the spooks are good at its wasting their time

 

[Lurdan]

Ahead of the publication of the Inquiry's Tranche 1 Interim Report on Thursday, the Sunday Times published this today
Spy officer who slept with activists went on to top job - (archived)

It's about Vincent Harvey. It 'discloses' a lot of stuff already in the public domain, although they appear to have spoken to him and one of the women he 'formed a relationship' with. Rather suspect the Sunday Times chose him not merely because his real name was released in 2021, but because it gives them an opportunity to mention Met Chief Mark Rowley who was in the NCIS when Harvey was its director of UK operations.

Last Sunday they published this:
I was violated by a police spy — and the state gave its blessing - (archived)

Interview with one of the women that Mark Kennedy 'formed a relationship' with, and who waived anonymity two weeks ago.

And in this week's London Review of Books an article by Paul and Monica Foot's son
Matt Foot · Diary: Children of the Spied-On · LRB 29 June 2023 - (archived)

 

[DaveCinzano]

And in this week's London Review of Books an article by Paul and Monica Foot's son
Matt Foot · Diary: Children of the Spied-On · LRB 29 June 2023 - (archived)

It grated that there was a big factual error in the first paragraph but not had a chance to read it all the way through

 

[DaveCinzano]

Ahead of the publication of the Inquiry's Tranche 1 Interim Report on Thursday, the Sunday Times published this today
Spy officer who slept with activists went on to top job - (archived)

It's about Vincent Harvey. It 'discloses' a lot of stuff already in the public domain, although they appear to have spoken to him and one of the women he 'formed a relationship' with. Rather suspect the Sunday Times chose him not merely because his real name was released in 2021, but because it gives them an opportunity to mention Met Chief Mark Rowley who was in the NCIS when Harvey was its director of UK operations.

I liked Harvey's attempt at throwing the IRA into the mix - classy guy.

 

[Lurdan]

The Tranche 1 Interim Report is now out.

It's here in html and pdf formats:
UCPI Interim Report for Tranche 1 - Undercover Policing Inquiry

Press release:
Undercover Policing Inquiry’s Tranche 1 Interim Report Published - Undercover Policing Inquiry

 

[Dystopiary]

This was actually on the front page of the BBC news site under the headline "Undercover policing unit tactics not justified, says report".

The use of undercover policing tactics from the 1960s onwards were not justified and the unit should have been disbanded early on, a report says.

Ex-senior judge Sir John Mitting said most groups infiltrated by the Special Demonstration Squad posed no threat.

His report for the undercover policing inquiry details tactics such as forming sexual relationships and using the names of dead children for cover.

The end did not justify the means, the report concludes.

The campaign group Police Spies Out Of Lives said: "Thanks to years of efforts by campaigners the authorities are now on the back foot.

"We are proud to have helped shift the official narrative from 'neither confirm nor deny' what took place, through 'just a few bad apples', to 'some unlawful operations', and now 'an entire force and policing culture that is rotten to the core' and sanctioned by the state."

The inquiry's final report is currently scheduled for 2026.

Undercover policing unit tactics not justified, says report

 

[Dystopiary]

Police Spies Out Of Lives on twitter