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ska invita said:
anyone know any details of those 2018 cases?
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I don't but I know of many cases going on into the 2000s.

This is the most recent one that I know of (wasn't this that guy on here mentioned earlier in this thread?)

Maya's story

They had an intimate relationship from 2006 to 2007. Seven years later in 2014, he returned and re-established the relationship.


In December 2018, it was revealed HN18 was Robert “Rob” Harrison, deployed 2004-2007 into International Solidarity Movement (London branch), State of Emergency Collective, No Borders and Globalise Resistance


The public inquiry recognised Maya as a core participant in May 2019 confirming Rob Harrison was the cover name for an SDS officer, real name unknown.
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ska invita said:
thats Boogie Boy wot posted on urban isnt it?
but yeah, what I wonder most is the extent of undercover surveillance today
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OK, right. I wasn't here then but read that in this thread (and maybe elsewhere on Urban).

I trust the Police Spies Out Of Lives People to be telling the truth about this going on as recently as 2018 but can't think of any examples after "Rob Harrison."

Anyone else know of anything more recent?
 
I mean the concept of spooks even( cosplaying spooks which these cops were) behaving ethically is laughable.

But these scumbags weren't even delivering any results that justified the existence of the unit let alone the tactics employed. What next enhanced interrogation for attending a demo? Extraordinary rendition to Rwanda for being a member of stop oil or climate crisis?*
* daily mail readers dont answer that as we know what you want:mad:.

You can just go 24 on someone because you think at some point in the future they may break the law
most of the "intel" if you could call it that could have been achieved by rocking up to the pub where the "activists" meet and buying a round or even 2!
 
ska invita said:
thats Boogie Boy wot posted on urban isnt it?
but yeah, what I wonder most is the extent of undercover surveillance today
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Everything is still game. Maybe not quite to the extent of theses case but I am pretty positive that most policing is done under the theme the ends justify the means when it suits them or they just decide that someone makes a good target and fuck the rule book.
 
Dystopiary said:
OK, right. I wasn't here then but read that in this thread (and maybe elsewhere on Urban).

I trust the Police Spies Out Of Lives People to be telling the truth about this going on as recently as 2018 but can't think of any examples after "Rob Harrison."

Anyone else know of anything more recent?
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I mean, Kennedy/Stone was active up until summer or autumn 2010. But that's the most recent I'm aware of, I think the official police line is that they changed their policy on undercovers after Kennedy was revealed and I thought everything that's been exposed since had been about pre-2010 activities.
 
hitmouse said:
I mean, Kennedy/Stone was active up until summer or autumn 2010. But that's the most recent I'm aware of, I think the official police line is that they changed their policy on undercovers after Kennedy was revealed and I thought everything that's been exposed since had been about pre-2010 activities.
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The reason I thought "Rob Harrison" was more recent was this:

They had an intimate relationship from 2006 to 2007. Seven years later in 2014, he returned and re-established the relationship
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That's about him and "Maya" mentioned here.

But he is only known to have been deployed 2004-2007.

The relationship ended in 2007, when Harrison disappeared, claiming he had to look after his dying mother.

In 2014, after intermittent contact, he persuaded the woman to resume their relationship, telling her that he wanted to have children together. At that point, the woman, who is known only as Maya as she has been granted anonymity by the inquiry, broke up with her partner of five years.

However, Harrison disappeared the day after they slept together again. He has not contacted her again since then, excluding one email he sent four years ago.

Maya only found out [in 2019] that Harrison had been an undercover officer sent to spy on her and other leftwing campaigners as part of the Metropolitan police’s Special Demonstration Squad (SDS).
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Undercover officer rekindled relationship seven years later, inquiry told


Just... 😠

But Police Spies Out Of Lives say they know spycops relationships going on in 2018.
 
Those are the ones we know the names of....inquiry shows that in total more than 1,000 groups have been spied on. Can you even think of 1,000 groups? This is full spectrum total surveillance. Likefish above says "these scumbags weren't even delivering any results that justified the existence of the unit let alone the tactics employed." ...any sane person would think that, but this shows how total intelligence policing is in the country - it is effectively a totalitarian police state - surveillance is total, and police want information on everything and anyone, no matter how harmless/legal.

There is no way this degree of spying has stopped, although it is perhaps less necessary to turn up to meetings because the internet exposes a lot of the who what where. I'd still like to know about the current situation though, even though I presume little has changed in terms of overall approach
 
DaveCinzano said:

Spycops Targets: a Who's Who - Undercover Research Group

Working with The Guardian, we present a Who’s Who of Spycop Targets, listing what is known to date from official sources, whistle-blowers and our own investigations. From 1968 to 2011, undercover police officers spied up on more than 1,000 political … Continue reading →
undercoverresearch.net
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um - that list is hopelessly out of date. The Inquiry have put the SDS annual reports up to 1981 online over the last couple of years. These reports were intended to justify continuing their funding so the lists of groups targeted they contain are likely to be reasonably complete. However there are redactions on some of the lists. After 1976 the SDS started looking more at anarchist groups and the lists of these get longer into the start of the 1980s. (There are one or two rather odd inclusions).

There are also much more incomplete and heavily redacted Special Branch annual reports, although some contain the monthly reports produced during the year. There are some very interesting and entertaining descriptions of groups and events in the less heavily redacted reports. As an example the incomplete report for 1976 (PDF here) contains an interesting overview of the year.

Easiest way to locate these reports is to go to the Inquiry Site and enter the search string 'Annual Report' and the year.
 
Lurdan said:
um - that list is hopelessly out of date. The Inquiry have put the SDS annual reports up to 1981 online over the last couple of years. These reports were intended to justify continuing their funding so the lists of groups targeted they contain are likely to be reasonably complete. However there are redactions on some of the lists. After 1976 the SDS started looking more at anarchist groups and the lists of these get longer into the start of the 1980s. (There are one or two rather odd inclusions).

There are also much more incomplete and heavily redacted Special Branch annual reports, although some contain the monthly reports produced during the year. There are some very interesting and entertaining descriptions of groups and events in the less heavily redacted reports. As an example the incomplete report for 1976 (PDF here) contains an interesting overview of the year.

Easiest way to locate these reports is to go to the Inquiry Site and enter the search string 'Annual Report' and the year.
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I was posting that page as a handy starting point for those trying to recall which undercover officer was in which unit and over which period.

No one has ever used 'easiest way to locate' in the same sentence as the UCPI website before :cool:
 
Lurdan said:
There are also much more incomplete and heavily redacted Special Branch annual reports, although some contain the monthly reports produced during the year. There are some very interesting and entertaining descriptions of groups and events in the less heavily redacted reports. As an example the incomplete report for 1976 (PDF here) contains an interesting overview of the year.

Easiest way to locate these reports is to go to the Inquiry Site and enter the search string 'Annual Report' and the year.
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I never knew the AWA was so invested in showbusiness.
 
DaveCinzano said:
No one has ever used 'easiest way to locate' in the same sentence as the UCPI website before :cool:
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The results produced by searches can be eccentric but I don't find it that hard myself. It's CONSIDERABLY less of a pain in the arse than the Grenfell Inquiry website :mad:

I should add to what I posted above that the most convenient list of the groups targeted is appendix 1 of the Inquiry Counsel's opening statements for Phase 1 (1969-74) and Phase 2 (1975-84) (PDF files)

However those lists (obviously) do not include the names of groups that have been redacted in the SDS annual reports. To get a sense of those you will need to look at the actual reports. And there are groups which SDS were not deployed to target. The Communist Party for one. And Black Flag is only listed from 1982. Presumably subject to other 'arrangements' before that.
 
There's an episode of Radio 4's Woman's Hour from yesterday featuring a woman who had a relationship with/was a victim of an undercover cop. Available for a year,

Hayley Hassall is joined by ‘Alison’ who had a five year relationship with an undercover officer, and by Harriet Wistrich, who is Director of the Centre for Women’s Justice and part of the legal team that represented women in the inquiry.
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BBC Radio 4 - Woman's Hour, Olivia Colman, Undercover policing inquiry, Afua Hirsch, Lottie Jackson
 
A round up coverage going round

ITV News: Met Police unit’s spying was 'not justified' and squad 'should have been closed down’, report finds

LBC Andrew Marr show - Steve Hedley (ex-RMT Assistant General Secretary) interviewed about the spycops scandal. Starts 24m 20secs in....
www.lbc.co.uk

Tonight with Andrew Marr 29/06 | Watch again

You can watch Thursday's Tonight with Andrew Marr in full here.
www.lbc.co.uk www.lbc.co.uk

BBC 1 News at 6pm
www.bbc.co.uk

BBC News - BBC News at Six, 29/06/2023

The latest national and international news from the BBC.
www.bbc.co.uk www.bbc.co.uk

BBC 2 Newsnight - a major piece, including interviews with women activists targeted. [Starts 18mins in]
www.bbc.co.uk

Newsnight - Courts Block Government Asylum Plan

Is an exit from the European Convention on Human Rights on the agenda? With Kirsty Wark.
www.bbc.co.uk www.bbc.co.uk

"The first official 'interim' report from the Undercover Policing Public Inquiry has condemned the Metropolitan Police's 'unjustifiable' spycops operations and concluded the unit should have been closed down. The unit was secretly set up in 1968 after the massive Vietnam War protests, and continued infiltrating groups and spying on a campaigners (over 1,000 left-wing and progressive groups targeted) for the next 40 years. To that end the spycops employed a range of shocking and totally unacceptable tactics.

Following the spycops campaigners press conference today almost every major TV channel had a reports like the ones above. So at last the scandal is fully recognised and campaigners are vindicated after years of hard work exposing the truth.

Still a long way to go before the Inquiry ends in 2026 - we continue to demand the names of the spycops, a full list of all the organisations targeted, and the files compiled on activists should be released."
 
James Boyling ("Jim Sutton") is in front of another misconduct hearing:

Undercover officer had sexual relationship, tribunal told - BBC News

Ex-Det Con James Boyling was sacked in 2018 over his relationship with his now ex-wife.
He faces new misconduct proceedings over a six-month relationship with another woman, known as Monica, in 1997. He denies gross misconduct. (...)
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The disciplinary panel in Southwark was told that a detective inspector who line managed Mr Boyling at the time, named as N10, admitted to sexual relationships with four female activists while he was undercover between 1983 and 1987 - and got one of them pregnant.
And another officer, named as N11, also had sexual relationships with female activists and resumed his undercover identity without authorisation, the panel was told.
Sexual relationships between undercover officers and activists were not explicitly banned, the hearing was told.
However they were told to make them "fleeting" and "disastrous", the panel heard.
Guidance read out to the tribunal said: "While you may try to avoid any sexual encounter, there may come a time when your lack of interest may become suspicious.
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His lawyer Alisdair Williamson KC argued the rules on relationships were unclear.
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Met notice of the hearing:
Misconduct hearing for former Detective Constable James Boyling - Metropolitan Police

Decision expected on Friday
 
By way of a quick recap, the references to:

“a detective inspector who line managed Mr Boyling at the time, named as N10, admitted to sexual relationships with four female activists while he was undercover between 1983 and 1987 - and got one of them pregnant” = Robert Lambert AKA ‘Bob Robinson’, who was not only Boyling's line manager in the SDS but also his friend both then and afterwards. Lambert later - with Boyling - set up the Muslim Contact Unit; socialised with Boyling and his then-wife (cognisant that Boyling that previously professionally spied on her); and did Park Runs with him. Lambert's past caught up with him thanks to his ego; after leaving the police he built himself up as a high-profile academic working in the field of engagement with salafi muslims, which brought him to the attention of London Greenpeace people he had previously infiltrated, who publicly outed him. This in turn led to the woman whom he had a child with whilst undercover seeing his story in the Daily Mail years after he (purposefully and suddenly) dropped out of her and her young son's life.

“another officer, named as N11, also had sexual relationships with female activists and resumed his undercover identity without authorisation” = Mike Chitty AKA ‘Mike Blake’, Lambert's precursor in animal rights circles, whose eccentric behaviour was first publicly outlined in Paul Lewis & Rob Evans' Guardian stories, then their book, and subsequently fleshed out by Undercover Research Group.

“Guidance read out to the tribunal said: "While you may try to avoid any sexual encounter, there may come a time when your lack of interest may become suspicious.” = from the SDS Manual written/edited together by Andy Coles AKA ‘Andy Davey’, him with the penchant for teenaged female activists. He was outed by an opaque passage in the autobiography of his brother, pop-star-turned disco vicar/centrist dad Richard Coles. Didn't seemed to affect his standing as a Conservative Party councillor though.
 
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