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'The United Nations, which is supposed to be coordinating aid in Moldova, has not spent a single dollar at the time of writing. If no international aid organization had done anything at all to help refugees in Poland, Romania or Hungary in the last month it would be an international scandal. Why has Moldova, the smallest country with the largest number of refugees per capita by far received no help? Moldova, which is not a member of the EU and does not benefit from the protection of NATO. Moldova which had innumerable challenges before this crisis. Where is the Cavalry?'


Absolutely disgusting situation
 
There's been no clear guidance about the vetting yet, only real option is DBS or some local thing like an interview done by the council.
 
Guidance on the vetting now emanymton and weltweit

"Before any visa is granted the Home Office will conduct various checks on both Ukrainians and sponsors. These include checks against the Police National Computer for every adult in the sponsor’s household. In addition, your local authority will start the process of running DBS checks on every adult co-habiting with the Ukrainian guests, with an enhanced DBS with barred list checks for those families with guests including children or, in some circumstances, vulnerable adults."
 
Johnson today said that 2,500 visas had been granted but failed to answer about how many refugees were actually now in the UK.

It seems they have made it very complicated to complete the visa application paperwork, while other countries are just being hospitable without conditions.
 
Ryanair wouldn't let this Nigerian man on the plane in Poland after fleeing from Ukraine, but they were fine with his Ukrainian wife. He had a valid ticket too. They also refused to reimburse the cost of the ticket he'd paid for.

They called the police on the man and the police wouldn't arrest him as he hadn't commited a criminal offence.

BTW, The boss of Ryanair, Michael O'Leary, was criticised in 2020 for saying that "males of a Muslim persuasion” should be profiled at airports.

So fuck Ryanair. I hope the man and his wife are safe.
 
It was on the Beeb last night that Biden had said the US would take 100,000 Ukrainian refugees but so far only 7 visa's have been issued so we're not the only nation whose record on this is nowt to boast about.

Ryanair wouldn't let this Nigerian man on the plane in Poland after fleeing from Ukraine, but they were fine with his Ukrainian wife. He had a valid ticket too. They also refused to reimburse the cost of the ticket he'd paid for.

They called the police on the man and the police wouldn't arrest him as he hadn't commited a criminal offence.

BTW, The boss of Ryanair, Michael O'Leary, was criticised in 2020 for saying that "males of a Muslim persuasion” should be profiled at airports.

So fuck Ryanair. I hope the man and his wife are safe.

On the video he says they stopped us from traveling to Dublin because we are from Nigeria, If he was travelling on a Nigerian passport then he would need a visa to go to Ireland. His Ukrainian wife wouldn't.
Ryanair take a sort of perverse pride in providing shit service but they're not responsible for a country's immigration rules. If he doesn't have the proper paperwork then they're not legally obliged to refund his ticket either.
They're notorious for trying to wriggle out of refunds when they're supposed to never mind when they're not.
 
This is beyond belief. We're tearing ourselves to pieces about exploitation of women at the hands of police, etc., and our fucking stupid government just sets things up so predatory men can approach lone female Ukrainian refugees and offer them accommodation, quite evidently "with strings".


These cunts in government couldn't fuck this up any worse if they tried...then again, perhaps they are trying to fuck it up.
 
It's bloody awful. It's doubly bad because they're pretending to want to help, making things harder for people in desperate need.

ttps://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/apr/23/homes-for-ukraine-whistleblower-says-uk-refugee-scheme-is-designed-to-fail

A whistleblower working on Britain’s Homes for Ukraine scheme has revealed that he and his colleagues “don’t know what we’re doing”, and claims the scheme has been “designed to fail” in order to limit numbers entering the UK.

“We don’t really know what we’re doing,” said the source... “The system is designed, it would appear, for people to fail. They want to keep the numbers down. Everything they do feels as if it is to do that. I’ve even had a barrister and lawyers on the phone saying they couldn’t understand the system.”

The whistleblower questioned the official government data on Ukrainian refugees, claiming the statistics gave the impression that ministers were being more generous than they were in reality.

The source, speaking on condition of anonymity, said he had dealt with numerous cases where UK visas had been issued for an entire Ukrainian family apart from one child, which in effect stopped the family travelling to the UK.

No surprises here. the UK govenment love outsourcing to rich bastards:

"The whistleblower is employed by a Paris-based multinational"
 
You can’t blame the whole of Poland for this.
Obviously I mean particularly the Polish state and the people who support the governing party... But also theres a much wider racism that goes beyond those two groups I mention .... It's very common.
 
Just as long as you don’t blame the actual racist football hooligans who shouted at the refugees, I mean it’s not like you get racist football fans in other countries is it, it must be the Polish government’s fault.
 
Just as long as you don’t blame the actual racist football hooligans who shouted at the refugees, I mean it’s not like you get racist football fans in other countries is it, it must be the Polish government’s fault.
i was talking about the treatment of refugees from the middle east...the wall on the belraus border....im talking about anti-muslim racism which runs deep in poland
 
A reflection on refugees from a discussion with a Ukrainian friend yesterday. Sort of sad. This applies to Italy but probably applies to other countries too. My friend was saying that there are a lot of refugees who arrived in the first wave from Kiev and Western Ukraine who (in relative terms, especially now that Kiev is not on the front line) took up a lot of the initial outpouring of solidarity, basically in some cases the best spare rooms in the nicest houses were snapped up by the people who were first to arrive, who are sometimes not necessarily the most in need.

Now there are lots more people arriving from areas like Mariupol who've been through absolute hell and who arrive in Italy to find there isn't much, if any, voluntarily-offered accommodation left, so they lose twice.
 
Local authority at a friends area want every home that takes any lodger to apply for a HIMO licence. I can't see how they, the council, are going to be able to provide any accommodation to refugees as that accommodation won't fit in any of the requirements they now insist on
 
It's so fucked up. The government were getting a big push to allow these refugees to come to the UK, and it seems like they started this scheme for all the wrong reasons, to look good on paper. They've let deeply traumatised refugees be housed with people who might have no knowledge of how to handle that, and whose fuel bills have suddenly gone through the roof, they've had predatory men looking for single women to latch on to, there's not been a proper wide-scale solution to helping Ukrainian refugees at all, or any refugees. Plus they've made it really difficult for them to come here anyway. I honestly think if they could have got away with it they'd have sent them to Rwanda like the other people they plan to. :mad:
 
Our Geneva Abdul speaks to Ruhullah Haji, an Afghan surgeon who fled Ukraine and says he was treated differently at Polish border.

Born in Kabul, Afghanistan, and later building a life in Ukraine, Ruhullah Haji has been displaced by war twice in 34 years.

So when the heart surgeon made it to Britain after fleeing Russia’s invasion, he was desperate for security and the right to remain as a Ukrainian. Many other Afghans have struggled to secure such rights since the fall of Kabul last year, and remain in limbo.

Haji’s application to the Ukrainian family scheme was accepted on Thursday, about a month after he applied and a day after the Guardian approached the Home Office about his case.

However, his lawyer said a decision for his wife and daughter has yet to come.

It marks the end of a long and arduous road. A week after Ukraine was invaded in February, Haji crossed the Polish border alone in search of his wife and child who had already fled. At the border, he said he was treated differently. Other BAME refugees have reported similar experiences.

“Because they [volunteers] saw me: that I’m not white and I don’t have green eyes and I’m not blond,” said Haji, who waited at the border for three days with no belongings. “But … I serve for Ukraine more than [many] Ukrainians.”

Heart surgeon Ruhulla Ramaki, who escaped war in his home country, Afghanistan, settled in Odesa and is now in Blackpool awaiting a decision on his UK asylum application.

Heart surgeon Ruhulla Ramaki, who escaped war in his home country, Afghanistan, settled in Odesa and is now in Blackpool awaiting a decision on his UK asylum application. Photograph: Christopher Thomond/The Guardian
He then travelled by train from Poland through Romania, Hungary, Austria and Germany over two days in search of his family, before flying to the UK. “I couldn’t sleep, I couldn’t eat, I couldn’t drink, I was just walking and running, in two days,” he said.

Haji had left Afghanistan for Ukraine in his teens to join his older brother. He studied Russian, adding a seventh language to his arsenal, and completed his medical degree to become a heart surgeon. He also held language classes for more than 100 Afghan refugees, worked as a refugee doctor across the Odesa region where the family lived, and later founded a clinic of his own.

After reuniting with his family in Britain in March, they visited the Home Office and the following day were sent to a hotel in Blackpool to await news of their asylum application.

Haji’s solicitor, Nicola Burgess of the Greater Manchester Immigration Aid Unit, has been helping Haji’s family, and others who have applied for asylum, switch to existing Ukrainian schemes.

Burgess recognises that without the Ukrainian scheme, the family would be stuck in a hotel without the right to work – the experience of many Afghans. “If you just had to flee a war zone, you have been subjected to trauma. And if you’re stuck in a box room hotel, it is going to have a negative effect on a person.”
 
A website has been recently set up to support Ukrainian Refugees here in the UK:


English version (it also has a Russian version, you can switch on the site)

 
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