That's an interesting point....dunno tbh...
I don't know if I would read into anything yet, admittedly it needs a lot more investigation but from the posts I have read on fascist websites supporting neither side in favour of 'white unity' is a minority opinion, a lot of them expressed frustration that the majority of fash were supporting Russian/Ukrainian nationalism rather than the unity of the Aryan race, I'm also not sure that the majority of the Ukrainian extreme right would accept the help of Russian nationalists given their extreme hatred of Russia. A lot of the Russian fash see the Maidan protesters as having been led by Jews etc and so its hard to see any sort of 'unity project' taking hold, I could be wrong though but I think that the majority of neo-nazis in Russia and Ukraine seem to hate each other so much anything on that basis would be very unlikely.
From what I know of the eastern European far right the Ukrainian fash would be far more likely to form alliances with say the Croatian or Polish fash and the Russian fash siding with Serbia and the like, I could be wrong on that though!
And with increased communication there are more trends towards 'internationalism' in the far right as strange as it may sound
I watched a video about Nazis in Russia where they were holding training camps and other Nazis came to train there as well such as Germans etc, its not beyond the realms of possibility it would have included Ukrainian far righters as well.
Here it is if you are interested:
https://vimeo.com/ondemand/neonazisrussia/89907726
I do think that all these organizations have a number of extremely dangerous people attracted to violence who don't particularly care what 'side' they are on - certainly seems to be the case with that ruslan guy
They've been having these outdoor celebrations for a lot of years. The Bolsheviks were party poopers though.
The fascist anti-fascist I mentioned above.
Totally "fash"ed out over the last couple of pages.
I'm not sure where the idea that the Odessa events began with the attack on the camp on the square. It's reported basically universally that they began out in the city when a pro-unity Maidan sided march met with, or rather was attacked by an anti-maidan group. The stronger Maidan claim was that it began with a man from their group, largely football ultras - that's acknowledged - being shot through the head. Which, from videos of firearms on the anti-Maidan side, seems not implausible.
But, not at all to get conspiratorial, it's serious, and grim - it seems to be more complex. Considering the entire basis for the tragedy was the street fighting...
The 'Russian' side, in the events that pumped-up the violence that ended in the huge fire, were firing from the police lines. The men in fatigues, with red bands, red-starred shields, and covered in St. George ribbons - classic 'Pro-Russians.' The police knew they were armed, they fired from alongside them.
http://echo.msk.ru/blog/echomsk/1313090-echo/
So what is this? And what precedent could it be setting? Just my-enemy's-enemy, tolerating it from fear of overwhelming odds? Or police units bringing 'turned' anti-Maidan associates and ex-colleages? The Odessian police did essentially nothing until the entire centre of the union building was alight. These are the men of the Ministry which announced almost immediately that the building's occupants set themselves on fire.
Yes, I already provided warnings with regard to the information posted, that it is not without the potential for mistakes as well as wrong assumptions to be made. My use of 'seems' and 'suspect' etc reflects that, rather than presenting the admittedly superficial information gathered so far as concrete evidence. Sure, when it comes to fascist influence or direction within OD (and I did say more digging needs to be done) the single link of Odinov is inadequate.
However, I did a little more digging on the Russian web, and it appears a Russian fascist named Anton Raevsky, belonging to a St Petersburg-based group called Chernaya Sotnya (the Black Hundreds) had recently been involved with OD. Several of his group, including himself, travelled to Ukraine to volunteer with the OD to help take on Right Sector and stayed at the OD camp on Kulikovo Field square.
His own video from the camp back in March.
His organisation. Just normal folks, out celebrating with those colours again.
My suspicion is this piece of shit has tried to gatecrash the Anti Maiden in odessa (maybe even OD).
Very possible
Three years before the Kiev junta existed.
Its plainly some sort of celebration of the environment because we've got birds, bears, forestry workers...
Its plainly some sort of celebration of the environment because we've got birds, bears, forestry workers...
seventh bullet, much respect for this investigation & find. I'll bow to this as irrefutable that extreme right wingers have been involved in the anti maiden at odessa.
I've looked at those posts on VK (seems he's only been a member there since the end of April and only has one freind / follower there (?)...
Further research on him shows he's since left Ukraine (I think it's the same cunt but google spurts out different gramatical names like Raevkogo, Raevskii, etc - certainly resembles hime though:
http://www.mfs-theothernews.com/2014/03/russian-citizen-anton-raevskogo-black.html
Check out those tatoos!
According to the article linked above - besides the "Blut & Boden" (Blood & Earthhe also has swastika and hitler portrait tats...
