Sunny jim you have consistently made sweeping statements were you claim various things on behalf of the people in Eastern Ukraine without explaining where your evidence is from or what position you personally are in to judge them. Here's a brief selection of the things you've said in the last few pages which show that you're totally out of touch with popular opinion in Eastern Ukraine and have spent your time here falsely claiming thing on their behalf.
A comment straight out of bullshit western media. They've said all along they want autonomy from Kiev, not necessarily a joining with Russia.
Citation needed. According to the polling data only 25% want a federally autonomous set up in Ukraine. I'm sure people do want more power to the regions but more regional power is something that when asked practically every nation earth people are in favour of. It doesn't require any kind of referendum, let alone armed occupation of government buildings, to achieve that within the constitution.
Although pragmatically speaking if they get attacked by massive superior fire power from the Ukraine military, then I expect they would be happy for Russia to save their arses.
Citation needed. only 11.7% expressed any support for Russian troops getting involved (an even lower number, 8%, said they wanted Russia to be involved in any way with the current Ukrainian crisis) and 74.3% of people in Eastern Ukraine are against the presense of Russian troops in the country.
But it doesn't have to come to that - a partition of the country would be a better option.
Perhaps for you, but the vast majority of Eastern Ukranians according the polls, including the proud anti-fascists with their banners singing the internationalé etc, are overwhelmingly in favour of Ukraine remaining a unitary state and not splitting up. The most popular position is simply more power for the regions, not even full federal autonomy and a referendum! Any referendum would exist purely to provide a flimsy justification for a Russian invasion, as it did in Crimea, which is why Russian media is pushing it hard despite the opposition of many in the region to this course of action.
Infact 54.1% of the people of Eastern Ukraine believe Russia is interfering illegally in Ukraine (32% don’t) and 40.7% (vs 35%) fear that Russia is planning to invade.
A partition of the country would therefore not only be against the wishes of the vast majority of Eastern Ukranians but would itself trigger a war. We in the UK and the rest of the western world are treaty-bound to defend the territorial integrity of Ukraine. Now Crimea is a unique case in many ways, but if Russia were to start picking off chunks of Eastern Ukraine NATO would either a) have to use military force to repel them or b) watch NATO disintegrate as states lose faith in NATO's ability to protect them from Russia. I don't fancy a war personally.
I think people should reserve their enmity for these people rather than the people of eastern Ukraine who are fighting against them. Just a thought.
There's another example of you speaking on behalf of people you know nothing about, have no contact with and don't give a fuck about other than to live out your sad vicarious "anti-fascist" wet dreams through. Treating people just like pawns in chess, as that great philosopher John Osborne once said.
Are ALL the people of Eastern Ukraine fighting against them Sunny Jim? Including the 36.8% that believe "Ukraine is at war with Russia" or the 30.3% that think the President Turchynov is legitimate? Even in Donetsk and other strongly pro-Russian areas far more people accept the Kiev administration than defend the previous Yannokovich one, and in the Eastern regions far more people support the Kiev regime than support the idea of Russian involvement of any kind, (42.3% support the legitimacy of the Kiev parliament, compared to a pitiful 8.4% who support becoming part of Russia)
