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UCU - Pensions and Pay Disputes

while I want to support the strike it's not my union, I haven't had a vote and potentially 14 days is a lot.
As I think was mentioned above, if UNISON aren't involved in the dispute, legally their members can't take action. We can support in our own time, either lunch hours, before/after work or taking leave, but we can't go out on strike with them. Not legally, anyway.

edit: oh, or as heinous seamus said!
 
What Heinous has posted is the comms I've received from Unison. I'm using some of my time-in-leui and leave during the UCU action and will be supporting them picket at some point. Appreciate I'm in a more fortunate position than others though as academic related and personal circumstances - lots of people I know in Unison simply can't afford to take any action on their pay grades, etc.

Higher Ed is structurally fucked, beyond actions over pensions/pay. Fuck Labour, Lib Dems and Tories for your successive education policies.
 
Actually would appreciate thoughts from anyone in the other unions tbh.

As a Unison member what to do - while I want to support the strike it's not my union, I haven't had a vote and potentially 14 days is a lot. And if I'm entirely honest I don't see UCU or the academic staff going out in support of the SAUL scheme. Thoughts?
last time round i was the only unison member where i was to refuse to cross a picket line, and i got 1/260 iirc deducted but no disciplinary proceedings. this time round i'll refuse to cross if they have one where i work: but i doubt they will.
 
No movement from UUK as a whole but we now have 8 VC's who have publicly criticised the DC pensions plan and asked for more talks, Essex VC writes in Times Higher here: Universities must pay more to protect pensions

We're in uncharted territory in all honesty. The only two things I do know for sure are that the employers are divided, which they've never been before, and the strikes are going to be much stronger and well supported than in the past. I'm hoping that the first few days of action will lead to new talks and a better deal - though probably still a cut. It depends a lot what's going on inside UUK though - apparently it's mainly Oxford and Cambridge pushing for DC pensions: Oxford’s and Cambridge’s role in the demise of USS – Michael Otsuka – Medium

I hope it doesn't go 14 days. But this is one of those things where we've not got a lot of choice, if we didn't take the action we'd lose all credibility. In fact I don't think they would have tried this at all if they didn't think based on previous strikes that the union is basically useless.

Thanks for solidarity last time around Pickers - hopefully in future we'll be able to take action together more, it's frustrating these sectional disputes.
 
No movement from UUK as a whole but we now have 8 VC's who have publicly criticised the DC pensions plan and asked for more talks, Essex VC writes in Times Higher here: Universities must pay more to protect pensions

We're in uncharted territory in all honesty. The only two things I do know for sure are that the employers are divided, which they've never been before, and the strikes are going to be much stronger and well supported than in the past. I'm hoping that the first few days of action will lead to new talks and a better deal - though probably still a cut. It depends a lot what's going on inside UUK though - apparently it's mainly Oxford and Cambridge pushing for DC pensions: Oxford’s and Cambridge’s role in the demise of USS – Michael Otsuka – Medium

I hope it doesn't go 14 days. But this is one of those things where we've not got a lot of choice, if we didn't take the action we'd lose all credibility. In fact I don't think they would have tried this at all if they didn't think based on previous strikes that the union is basically useless.

Thanks for solidarity last time around Pickers - hopefully in future we'll be able to take action together more, it's frustrating these sectional disputes.
i seconded a motion at my branch committee which sees us donate more than £300 to the ucu strike fund - the solidarity's still there :)
 
Received this from Uni today (edited to keep the highlights):

IMPORTANT: UCU industrial action starts on Thursday 22 February. Many classes will go ahead as normal on strike days and you should not assume your classes will be cancelled. Please read the message and the Frequently Asked Questions below for more information... [SNIP]

UCU has also given notice of continuous action short of strike starting on 22 February. This action includes working to contract; not covering for absent colleagues; not rescheduling lectures or classes cancelled due to strike action; and not undertaking any voluntary activities. The University expects staff who are at work, including those taking action short of strike, to fulfil their contractual obligations in full.

Naturally, students will be concerned about the potential impact of industrial action on their studies. However, the strike will not affect all staff and there will be teaching on strike days, so you should not assume that your classes will be cancelled. While some level of disruption is likely, it will probably vary across the University and we are taking all reasonable steps we can to ensure that it is kept to a minimum. If your lecturers have not advised you in advance that teaching will be cancelled, you should go to your classes as normal. If teaching does not take place, please report it to us using the online ‘cancelled classes form’ as explained below. We also anticipate that services such as the Library and Support Centres should be operating as normal.

[SNIP]

Q: What is the University doing to mitigate the impact of strike action?

A: UCU members are exercising their lawful right to take industrial action, following a ballot of members. We are taking all reasonable steps to ensure that any disruption is kept to a minimum, but we are subject to some legal restrictions limiting the action we can take. As union members are not obliged to tell us in advance if they plan to strike, combined with the action short of strike outlined above, taking steps in advance to mitigate the impact on our day-to-day activities can be difficult; however, as set out below, we are putting in place a number of measures to minimise disruption so far as it is possible for us to do.

It is important to note that many University employees will not participate in strike action, meaning many classes will go ahead as normal on strike days. In addition, those participating in strike action are not likely to be employed evenly across the academic schools and administrative functions – there may be some schools and departments where the impact is minimal or even non-existent. As far as possible, all University facilities and services will be open and operating as normal.

We are very aware of the potential impact of the strikes on our students, particularly those who are completing their studies with us this academic year – and we are putting in place special mechanisms, described below, in order to do everything reasonable to ensure that students’ studies and grades are not negatively impacted in the longer term. Further information will be forthcoming over the coming weeks as we put these mechanisms in place.

Q: What will happen on strike days?

A: Not all students will be affected by strike action. It is dependent on what action is being taken by individual staff in your School. The University will be open and the majority of classes will take place as normal. You should attend all your scheduled classes unless you have been advised otherwise, in addition to completing and submitting assessments and preparing for exams as normal.

It is likely that on strike days there will be picket lines at the major entrances to the University. This will mean there will be a small group of staff with banners and placards who will speak to people about the dispute and hand out information about the strike. Staff on the picket line will not prevent you from coming onto campus and attending your classes, and you do not have to talk to them if you do not want to.

All picketing must be conducted in a peaceful way and be properly supervised by the UCU. During previous disputes UCU colleagues have always conducted themselves responsibly. We are all part of the University community and we are confident that everyone will remain respectful throughout the dispute even if the opinions of individuals differ.

Q: How much disruption will there be?

A: It is difficult to tell until the industrial action starts as staff are not required to inform the University in advance of their intention to participate in the strike action. In addition, those participating in strike action are not likely to be employed evenly across the academic schools and administrative functions – there may be some schools and departments where the impact is minimal or even non-existent. As far as possible, all University facilities and services will be open and operating as normal.


Q: How will I know if any of my classes will be cancelled on the days of the strikes?

A: The University is asking students to attend their scheduled activities as normal unless they have specifically been told otherwise. We recommend that you speak to your individual lecturers for advice on their plans (although they do not have to provide you with this information) and that you closely monitor the Me@Reading student portal and your University email for the latest information.

Q: Will cancelled classes be re-scheduled?

A: Schools are working hard to identify the most appropriate way to deliver teaching or materials for any classes affected, which may include rescheduling, combining missed classes with other classes or providing materials for you to review independently. Any classes that are rescheduled will appear on your timetable but you should also monitor your University email, the Me@Reading student portal and Blackboard for further information and guidance from your lecturers.

Q: How do I make sure the University knows that my class has not taken place?

A: You should complete the online ‘cancelled classes form’. There is a possibility that some students will go to a seminar or lecture and then find out that it is not happening as no advance warning has to be given by teaching staff. If this happens please take a moment to let us know and help us understand and manage the impact of class cancellations.

Q: Can I submit an extenuating circumstances form (ECF) citing the strike as a mitigating factor in my exam/assessment performance?

A: We are very aware of the potential impact of the strikes on our students, particularly those who are completing their studies with us this academic year. However, it is not yet possible to know what the actual impact of the industrial action will be, so we are not accepting any ECFs in advance relating to possible impact.

However, if students do consider themselves to be academically disadvantaged as a result of actual strike action, there will be a separate process for reporting this which will ensure that programme examiners take this into account. This process will be called Impact of Strike Action on Academic Performance. We will provide you with a full update on this new process on Monday 26 Feb. [there followed a bunch od similar stuff]


Q: What can I do if my teaching is cancelled due to strike action?

A: If your teaching is affected by the strike action you can still make good use of the time. For example, you could: [SNIP - to remove banal suggestions about doing some reading etc.!]


Q: I am really worried about the strike action. What can I do? (My Bold)

A: We know that the prospect of strike action will be making some students feel concerned and anxious. Strikes are uncertain times for everyone involved, but please bear in mind that many students will not be affected or will only be slightly affected. Schools are working extremely hard to do everything reasonable to minimise the likelihood of negative impact on your studies or your grades.
If you already know that some of your classes will be cancelled, make a plan for how you will use that time productively. Talk to others about how they are feeling about it all. If you are feeling very worried contact your personal tutor, the Support Centre (or HBS Admin Deck) or the Advisory Team.

[SNIP]

Q: How do I make a formal complaint?

A: There will be a specific complaint procedure relating to the industrial action. We will publish this on 1 March.

20 February 2018

:hmm:
 
It makes me chuckle really. We have head teachers (yes, a bit different, but the point is the same) piously intoning that taking a child out of school for a day to go on holiday, is a tragedy that will stunt the child's education for life. However, it would seem that industrial action days are magic, they don't harm the child's education. :D
 
It makes me chuckle really. We have head teachers (yes, a bit different, but the point is the same) piously intoning that taking a child out of school for a day to go on holiday, is a tragedy that will stunt the child's education for life. However, it would seem that industrial action days are magic, they don't harm the child's education. :D
a) we're not school teachers
b) school teachers aren't striking
c) school attendance has fuck all to do with the schools themselves but a bullshit requirement set down by a government who have no understanding of causal relationships and rather than improving anything at all is just a good statistic (good for government, not for the children)
d) I support my school striking and emailed the head asking if the school would be closing and that they had my support to do so last time they did

but not sure what any of that has to do with this anyway
 
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It makes me chuckle really. We have head teachers (yes, a bit different, but the point is the same) piously intoning that taking a child out of school for a day to go on holiday, is a tragedy that will stunt the child's education for life. However, it would seem that industrial action days are magic, they don't harm the child's education. :D
Have you even bothered to read a single post on this thread before posting this crap.
 
It makes me chuckle really. We have head teachers (yes, a bit different, but the point is the same) piously intoning that taking a child out of school for a day to go on holiday, is a tragedy that will stunt the child's education for life. However, it would seem that industrial action days are magic, they don't harm the child's education. :D

What a daft post.
 
I'm out but don't know if I'll be able to afford the full fourteen days. Quite disheartened at the large number of academics (all much better paid than me) who have no intention of striking or even seem to know that there is a strike. :mad:
 
I'm out but don't know if I'll be able to afford the full fourteen days. Quite disheartened at the large number of academics (all much better paid than me) who have no intention of striking or even seem to know that there is a strike. :mad:

I hope it won't go full 14 days but take advantage of national strike pay, or local hardship funds if in a particularly bad spot. It is disheartening but I'd also say well organised branches can force the senior academics out. Build your branch for the future and see this as a step towards. Solidarity mate.
 
I'll be down the local(ish) uni tomorrow morning with a bit of the old physical solidarity (samosas or cup cakes probably - final decision when I get to the supermarket this afternoon).

Might even learn something at one of their free university doodahs.
 
I'm out but don't know if I'll be able to afford the full fourteen days. Quite disheartened at the large number of academics (all much better paid than me) who have no intention of striking or even seem to know that there is a strike. :mad:

It's very quiet here, but it's half term (i know doesn't apply, but campus is always quiet during school holidays here) also, which seems to give many academics a reason to 'work from home' it may even be 'reading week' but I'm not sure. So not a very good date to choose really.
 
Again, provided we're all prepared to go on indefinite strike when they take 100% punitive pay deductions.

The marking boycott will be used in the spring exam period if the dispute is still live. But it does de facto mean indefinite action.
Not sure it would have to be indefinite, but it's certainly a high stakes poker/not blinking game. I was on a reps training course in November and got the impression that senior figures in the (Northern) Region are very hostile to a marking ban (for the reasons you indicate).
 
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