tube party on june 1st?
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Minnie_the_Minx
someinenhhanding menbag and me ah bollox
You could smoke on flights until well into the '90s I think - I certainly did in the late '80s and that was long before a ban IIRC; I spent most of one flight swapping seats with an Italian football team as they'd run out of seats in the smoking section by the time we stopped at Rome.
Smoking on the tube was banned after the Oxford Circus fire (November 1984), but not enforced until the King's Cross fire (Nov 1987). There were still smoking carriages on overland trains until very recently - less than a decade ago, I think.
I was smoking on Malaysian Airlines in 2000
editor
hiraethified
Really? Could you perhaps show me some of this fevered discussion prior to the ban being introduced? Oh, and on what basis are you claiming that the majority are for this ban?
Right. So on that basis you must also want alcohol banned from restaurants, festivals, cricket matches, country fairs, parks etc because you're oh-so-delicate children may be exposed to an adult (gasp!) having a drink.
Great logic there.
I would love to see children banned from all of these places and more ... That'd solve it!
err kids are allowed in lots of pubs in the daytime
Spymaster
Plastic Paddy
Don't be stupid.
Me said:
Nope, perfectly happy for all of those. You see, alcohol is sold at all of the venues you've listed, it is part and parcel of the event. If I wanted to avoid it I could do so by avoiding the event. Not much chance of that when you jump on my tube with your can of Special is there?
It's your logic that's fucked if you think it's perfectly acceptable for someone to enter a cramped public environment and force people into contact with alcohol fumes any time they please.
Never had you down for a such selfish arse.
By the way, are you happy for me to fart and knock back a full vindaloo when you're on the tube?
Spymaster
Plastic Paddy
No they're not if they're under 18 and unaccompanied.
You can't see the difference between kids on licensed premises with adult supervision and kids on public transport?
Oswaldtwistle
Banned
Ah come on, you can't make out the right to drink on public transport is some kind of basic freedom that should be stood up for....IIRC you supported the smoking ban which IMHO is a far greater restriction on personal freedom.
I realise we aren't going to agree on this, Editor, but I've yet to hear a convincing argument as to why London is a special case in this instance- when boozing on PT is banned everywhere else that I know of.
I think it's pretty simple - boozing shouldn't necessarily be banned on public transport, since it doesn't normally negatively impact the health of those in the vehicle. Smoking does normally negatively impact the health of those in the vehicle, hence the ban.
Minnie_the_Minx
someinenhhanding menbag and me ah bollox
_angel_
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Yes you did if you couldn't get a seat elsewhere. Being in the carriage next to the smoking one was almost as bad.
Never mind the fire hazard on top of that.
Thank God they've gone.
lights.out.london
Black Flag
Are people that desperate for a drink they need to slurp a tin on the Northern line or the 26 bus?
Spymaster
Plastic Paddy
Nah, they just need to "assert their rights".
editor
hiraethified
Have you ever worked on a building site for 12 hours solid and with a 45 minute tube journey home afterwards?
You'll find a cool can of beer can often make things more pleasant and it harms no one.
editor
hiraethified
That's an extraordinarily weak argument, unless you think the existence of laws elsewhere - no matter how unfair or unnecessary - should set a precedent for London.
lights.out.london
Black Flag
Too many pissheads (I speak as reformed one) who get too aggressive on their ale in a non-licenced space. Don't want it, don't need it.
Oswaldtwistle
Banned
So weak, nobody has yet been able to provide an answer to it!
Spymaster
Plastic Paddy
I work more than 12 hours every day and in over 30 years of tube use have always managed to wait until I got home before hitting the booze.
Not sure what the type of work has to do with anything unless you're trying to argue that builders should specifically be exempt from the ban.
Gavin Bl
terrible awful baaad
as an aside, I always find it annoying that people who have taken these newspapers feel able to leave them lying around. Take your rubbish with you!!
lights.out.london
Black Flag
Polish builders will be restricted to voddy, Irish to stout, Scots builders to Scotch, Geordies to Broon Ale etc etc etc.
Minnie_the_Minx
someinenhhanding menbag and me ah bollox
Yeah, but tubes weren't nearly as packed as they are now (well, they were actually as I used to live on Northern line).
I DID already say it was a good thing it was banned or buses and tubes
DotCommunist
So many particulars. So many questions.
Alcohol was quietly banned on the bus round here a year or so ago. But as there are almost no staff to enforce it, a quiet can is ignored. Civilised drinkers ge left alone, rowdy drunks are thrown off.
It could have gone that way with tube drinking, but Boris felt the need to trumpet it as some great idea, get peoples backs up and generaly making a montain from a molehill. This ban will be quietly flouted in london as it is elsewhere.
ajdown
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hmm, you don't reckon that rowdy drunks will be left alone cos they're too difficult to deal with but civilised drinkers will be picked on to show that "something is being done"? that's what happens with ticket dodging
where are all these "desperate" people?
ajdown
Posting in this thread
It doesn't matter if its 1 or 100 people on every bus or one in every 50 buses.
Someone that cannot do without alcohol for a 30 minute journey on public transport clearly has a problem.
DotCommunist
So many particulars. So many questions.
In the meantime maybe, but once the fuss dies off, quiet flouting will ensue i reckon
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