Tram overturns in Croydon - several deaths reported [Nov 2016]

[xsunnysuex]

A Croydon tram has over turned, trapping 5 people and injuring more than 40. Hope no one is seriously hurt.
Five trapped and 40 injured as tram overturns in Croydon

 

[dessiato]

Just seen this. Is there any indication of what caused it?

 

[Guineveretoo]

Not as yet, that I've seen. It looks like they are still in rescue mode.

I didn't know those trams could turn over.

 

[xsunnysuex]

Just seen this. Is there any indication of what caused it?

Said it happened on a sharp bend in a tunnel.

 

[Guineveretoo]

Said it happened on a sharp bend in a tunnel.

That doesn't explain how it overturned, though. Trams do that every few minutes of every day.

 

[xsunnysuex]

That doesn't explain how it overturned, though. Trams do that every few minutes of every day.

Nothing else reported yet.

 

[StoneRoad]

It is actually overturned or *just* de-railed but in a tunnel ?
Over-turned is a more dramatic term for reporting ... and people trapped could be more to do with their injury rather than a crunched up tram.
Just speculating ... will be interesting to see the RAIB report in due course.

 

[davesgcr]

One car on its side .....looks quite bad ......

 

[joustmaster]

 

[StoneRoad]

well, that look a mess ... the RAIB report is going to be very interesting !
I was wondering if there was "some exaggerating" in the reporting, but it would seem not. The ohl seems "a bit disrupted", as well.

 

[Bungle73]

Been some deaths apparently.

 

[ElizabethofYork]

 

[moon]

Shocking, I use that tram to get to IKEA and had no idea they could overturn.
Maybe there was something on the line or fallen leaves covered the points?
I hope most people are ok and the reports of fatalities are untrue

 

[D'wards]

Having got that tram many any times i would speculate it was going too fast. The trams bomb through that tunnel, but then slow right up to take the very sharp bend. Looking at how far away from the tracks the tram is i think the driver must have taken the bend at full pelt.

This is awful, i know people die every day but when its your home town it obviously resonates more.

There's a few Croydonites on U75, hope everyone ok..

 

[krtek a houby]

Shit. We used to use that when we lived in South London. Hope everyone is ok.

 

[Sea Star]

First tram crash since the 50s. Buses crash all the time. Regardless of this crash I think its still one of the safest ways to travel

 

[Orang Utan]

Shit, this is horrible - I wonder how it happened

(why is this in the suburban75 forum?)

 

[xsunnysuex]

8 people feared dead just reported.

 

[xsunnysuex]

(why is this in the suburban75 forum?)

Didn't know where to put it.

 

[Bungle73]

Didn't know where to put it.

Er....the London or the Transport forums? Where else would it go?

 

[Orang Utan]

Didn't know where to put it.

this forum is mostly cooking, diy and gardening, so I was puzzled.
The London or UK 'politics' (ie news) forums might be a more useful forum to put it in.

 

[xsunnysuex]

Er....the London or the Transport forums? Where else would it go?

Oh well, I posted it quickly before I went out. Didn't really think about it. Apologies.

 

[krtek a houby]

Oh well, I posted it quickly before I went out. Didn't really think about it. Apologies.

Doesn't matter where you put it. It's horrible, absolutely horrible and people don't need to be pedantic about it.

 

[Pickman's model]

Shit, this is horrible - I wonder how it happened

(why is this in the suburban75 forum?)

er it's suburban

 

[StoneRoad]

BBC coverage, link copied 1305 ;

Croydon tram overturns: 'Some loss of life' and two trapped - BBC News

Details as to casualty numbers still not confirmed (still in "recovery" phase although BTP and RAIB have begun their independent investigations).
Still a lot of speculation as to cause(s).

 

[Bungle73]

Driver been arrested apparently.

 

[StoneRoad]

Arresting the driver would also mean an interview under caution, not that fault had been determined.

 

[Cosmic]

Having got that tram many any times i would speculate it was going too fast. The trams bomb through that tunnel, but then slow right up to take the very sharp bend. Looking at how far away from the tracks the tram is i think the driver must have taken the bend at full pelt.

This is awful, i know people die every day but when its your home town it obviously resonates more.

There's a few Croydonites on U75, hope everyone ok..

Used to live in the Croydon area (Shirley) when the tram system was being built. Didn't use the trams that often, because we didn't live that close to the route however the few times I did use it I would get on/off at Sandilands and change for the bus or walk if it was a nice day.

From what I remember like you said that section is relatively high speed compared the sections going through the centre of Croydon. I agree it does look like it might have been going too fast.

 

[D'wards]

Driver has been arrested for manslaughter

 

[Orang Utan]

Driver has been arrested for manslaughter

link?
that can't be right, as they don't know what has happened yet