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Can someone explain to me how the current proposals to extract more oil and gas out of the North Sea will help in the current cost of living crisis.

Surely it will take a while to get the extra gas and oil?

Surely the gas and oil will be owned by the energy extraction companies who will trade it internationally to the highest bidder?

Surely it will contribute to global warming which is currently threatening millions in Pakistan?

I must be missing something.

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There's always someone only too willing to talk down this great country of ours by, er, asking questions. Shame on you!
 
It won't, takes about 25-30 years to start extraction. At best its about mid term old tech energy security. Oh and maintenance of some share prices.
Or are they limiting supply, so increasing supply now for the fields to run out sooner?
 
Can someone explain to me how the current proposals to extract more oil and gas out of the North Sea will help in the current cost of living crisis.

Standard tory 'idea' isn't it.

We don't have enough gas. So...we will get more gas.

Someone probably thinks that's a solid week's work they've done there, and that the whole problem will now just go away.
 
“We’ve opened up drilling for more gas so clearly this is renewable energy’s fault prices haven’t gone down”
 
Standard tory 'idea' isn't it.

We don't have enough gas. So...we will get more gas.

Someone probably thinks that's a solid week's work they've done there, and that the whole problem will now just go away.
It's not even that, IMO. It's opportunism, climate vandalism, playing to the usual suspects. No-one anywhere believes it will help.
 
I always presumed the motivation was revenge. I might not agree with it, but I understand it.

my understanding is that 'conventional wisdom' was that country A would not launch a nuclear strike against country B (if country B also had nukes) because if they did, country B would have time and capability to launch a nuclear strike on them before it got wiped out. i think 'mutually assured destruction' was the phrase.

but if country B didn't have nukes, conventional wisdom was that country A could get an invasion force ready, and country B would not want to fight back because country A might press the button.

we didn't have a nuclear war in the 80s - whether that was because of this, i'm not qualified to say.
 
my understanding is that 'conventional wisdom' was that country A would not launch a nuclear strike against country B (if country B also had nukes) because if they did, country B would have time and capability to launch a nuclear strike on them before it got wiped out. i think 'mutually assured destruction' was the phrase.

but if country B didn't have nukes, conventional wisdom was that country A could get an invasion force ready, and country B would not want to fight back because country A might press the button.

we didn't have a nuclear war in the 80s - whether that was because of this, i'm not qualified to say.

I don't think the second bit was ever stated or a doctrinal reality. No nation just let's themselves be invaded rather than defend because the invaders have nukes. See every war since 1945 for examples...

I think a clear and unequivicle no nuclear first strike policy is the best we can hope for from nuclear armed states at the moment.
 
I don't think the second bit was ever stated or a doctrinal reality. No nation just let's themselves be invaded rather than defend because the invaders have nukes. See every war since 1945 for examples...

dunno. it (not necessarily in the exact words i put down) seemed to be the general argument made whenever anyone advocated unilateral disarmament.

i'm not saying i agree entirely with it.
 
I’ve been wondering if Truss might go for something like this: a temporary nationalisation of some of the energy supplier companies, a covid style bailout for people and business for say 6 months and then calling a snap general election off the poll bounce.

As they say, watch this space…

 
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I’ve been wondering if Truss might go for something like this: a temporary nationalisation of some of the energy supplier companies, a covid style bailout for people and business for say 6 months and then calling a snap general election off the poll bounce.

As they say, watch this space…


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Whoever's responsible will be in a bunker somewhere. Any 'revenge' would be against the innocent.
Arguably they'd only be in a bunker due to the ability of the target to fire back. Without that, they could be getting on with life in Moscow or Beijing - or a city further east in Russia if Moscow is initially too close to the immediate contamination. But regardless, not for me to defend either way.
 
Arguably they'd only be in a bunker due to the ability of the target to fire back. Without that, they could be getting on with life in Moscow or Beijing - or a city further east in Russia if Moscow is initially too close to the immediate contamination. But regardless, not for me to defend either way.

So everyone else is dead, but poor Vlad stuck in his bunker can't go to McDonaldskis for his breakfast muffins any more so he's the one who has really lost out.
 
Just cannot believe this fucking leadership election is still running. How many more fucking weeks do these cunts need?

Not really paid attention to it since the mp voting rounds finished. I think result is finally due in a few days though?
 
Why does she have to traipse to Scotland to see Brenda, can't they do it via Zoom or get Chucky to do it.
 
I checked the dates and Truss is named as PM in parliament at 12.30 on the 5th and then Johnson goes to Balmoral to resign on the 6th. So assuming all the real fun and games really starts with pmqt on Wednesday the 7th?
 
I checked the dates and Truss is named as PM in parliament at 12.30 on the 5th and then Johnson goes to Balmoral to resign on the 6th. So assuming all the real fun and games really starts with pmqt on Wednesday the 7th?

I've told yous, PMQs is done with. She clearly isn't capable, so it's going.
 
Meanwhile...in shock news of a massive policy departure from the Truss team signalling a brave new direction for the tories...

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I'm sure there was an element of beating Japan too, or am I naive to think that
Actual deployment was more about the Russains, but those that sweating the detail were fighting the Japanese...even ended up needing materials they got off a U-boat the Germans were sending the Japanese...It was war, and pretty full on
 
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