Tory Leadership contest 2022

[not-bono-ever]

It’s a long road that has led to now. I don’t like what i see at the destination

 

[Tanya1982]

A better one (which I wish Corbyn would have made in 2017) would be to point out that "pushing the button" isn't how our deterrent works.

That would prolong the exchange and invite even more dialogue - the last thing anyone would want to do about this subject. It needs to be closed down in a way that doesn't leave open ends, and without you easily being made to look weak by the usual suspects. I'm glad he didn't say that, because the technical discussions that then followed from every angle would've been relentless, and would've just added to what was already said about his responses and feelings.

 

[Pickman's model]

It’s a long road that has led to now. I don’t like what i see at the destination

That's not the destination, there's a stop or two more to follow

 

[A380]

“Would I push the nuclear button? That’s the first thing I’m gonna do when I get the keys to Number 10. Fucking Denmark!”

 

[Storm Fox]

Sunak says it was a mistake to ‘empower scientists’ during Covid pandemic

Ex-chancellor admits being furious about school closures, adding trade-offs of lockdowns were not properly considered by experts

www.theguardian.com

Rishi Sunak has claimed that it was a mistake to “empower scientists” during the coronavirus pandemic and that his opposition to closing schools was met with silence during one meeting.

Fuck off, then fuck off some more.

 

[Pickman's model]

“Would I push the nuclear button? That’s the first thing I’m gonna do when I get the keys to Number 10. Fucking Denmark!”

It's OK, they've a dummy one prepared for people like her

 

[A380]

I'm going to re-run my 2020 post...

Also, picture the scene: Captain Barrington RN , officer commanding HMS Vigilent the at sea deterrent hasn’t been able to raise Northwood for three days. They go to periscope depth and monitor high levels of radioactivity even though they are far out to sea. All sat comms appear down. All they can raise on the radio is very broken morse code that appears to be coming from South America and, in the fragments they can hear, is broadcasting verses from the bible in Spanish. For ten minutes they receive a snatch of what sounds like Afrikaans news, but none of the crew speak Dutch. The captain meets with his first officer and together open the safe containing the letter from PM Borris Johnson with his direction on what action the captain should take.

Barrington opens the double envelope, with a very slight tremble in his fingers. It’s a cartoon picture, drawn in crayon of a stick figure woman with the word ‘boobies’ scrawled next to it...

 

[quiet guy]

 

[tommers]

Truss now saying the jury is out on whether Macron is "our friend or foe".

The fucking stupidity of that, on so many levels, is mind blowing. And yes, she's playing to her audience, but fucking hell. What a dick.

 

[SysOut]

Neutrality is something strange to her.

 

[philosophical]

So if you're not a friend you must be a foe huh?

 

[SpookyFrank]

This woman was the foreign secretary for some time, bearing in mind.

 

[brogdale]

This woman was the foreign secretary for some time, bearing in mind.

Is

 

[Pickman's model]

This woman was the foreign secretary for some time, bearing in mind.

It doesn't bear thinking about.

 

[SpookyFrank]

Is

Yeah but let's not kid ourselves here, the country has been coasting in neutral for the last two months. The current chancellor of the exchequer is just a bungee cord between the steering wheel and the door handle.

 

[brogdale]

Yeah but let's not kid ourselves here, the country has been coasting in neutral for the last two months. The current chancellor of the exchequer is just a bungee cord between the steering wheel and the door handle.

True enough, but Truss is still (just) our 'chief diplomat'.

 

[Calamity1971]

Had to check if Steve blue tick was a comedian. No....

 

[Pickman's model]

Had to check if Steve blue tick was a comedian. No....

She's the russians' dream pm because she's so barking, and will bring uk into disrepute around the world in ways Putin could only dream of

 

[Pickman's model]

I reckon what the russians actually fear most is an administration that actually works, something like a Wilson (1960s) one. Looking back it seems to me we haven't had a halfway competent government since at least the 1960s

 

[Calamity1971]

She's the russians' dream pm because she's so barking, and will bring uk into disrepute around the world in ways Putin could only dream of

I feel like bishop Brennan when father Ted kicked him in the arse. The reality that Liz the fruitcake is going to be pm will sink in eventually.

 

[Storm Fox]

Will Truss be the first Prime Minister to have sanctions applied to the UK* from a western nation


*I cannot find any sanctions from a western nation against the UK, but I'm happy to be corrected.

 

[Pickman's model]

Will Truss be the first Prime Minister to have sanctions applied to the UK* from a western nation


*I cannot find any sanctions from a western nation against the UK, but I'm happy to be corrected.

She stands a good chance of such

 

[SpookyFrank]

Will Truss be the first Prime Minister to have sanctions applied to the UK* from a western nation


*I cannot find any sanctions from a western nation against the UK, but I'm happy to be corrected.

Sanctions unlikely, but the EU might well cancel deals with the UK if Truss abandons our obligations under those deals. Which she seems pretty likely to do.

 

[wow]

Will Truss be the first Prime Minister to have sanctions applied to the UK* from a western nation


*I cannot find any sanctions from a western nation against the UK, but I'm happy to be corrected.

Maybe, but that’s the least of our problems

 

[Nine Bob Note]

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Not even a Mr Whippy. Some Thatcherite.

 

[bluescreen]

Tortoise Media are seeking a judicial review of the farce that is the Tory party's election of the next PM.
The Tories have been threatening to do away with judicial review for ages...

Our case for Judicial Review – 30 August 2022 - Tortoise

This letter was sent on the morning of Tuesday 30 August, serving as written pursuant to the Pre-Action Protocol for Judicial Review.

www.tortoisemedia.com

 

[Sasaferrato]

I've always been of the view that neither the UK, or any other NATO member would engage in a nuclear first strike.

So, if you are not going to use it first, why have it? Sure, when the Russian or Chinese or North Korean missiles are in the air, you can retaliate, but to what purpose? It isn't going to help a glowing London by creating a glowing Moscow or Beijing. The only reason that we hold on to nuclear weapons is to maintain our position as a permanent member of the UN Security Council.

 

[philosophical]

I suppose it is about the lovely warm fuzzy feeling you’d get in the nanosecond before being vaporised knowing you’re vaporising some little children elsewhere.

 

[existentialist]

I've always been of the view that neither the UK, or any other NATO member would engage in a nuclear first strike.

So, if you are not going to use it first, why have it? Sure, when the Russian or Chinese or North Korean missiles are in the air, you can retaliate, but to what purpose? It isn't going to help a glowing London by creating a glowing Moscow or Beijing. The only reason that we hold on to nuclear weapons is to maintain our position as a permanent member of the UN Security Council.

My understanding of the deterrence principle was simply that any power which was prepared to use a first strike did at least have to factor in the consequences of the retaliatory strike.

Arguably, without that threat, we'd probably have had a nuclear war by now. I can't help thinking that if Russia did not have to contend with the nuclear deterrence issue, it could be tempted to use battlefield nuclear weapons to achieve its aims without severe consequences. Let's hope so, anyway.

 

[littlebabyjesus]

My understanding of the deterrence principle was simply that any power which was prepared to use a first strike did at least have to factor in the consequences of the retaliatory strike.

Arguably, without that threat, we'd probably have had a nuclear war by now. I can't help thinking that if Russia did not have to contend with the nuclear deterrence issue, it could be tempted to use battlefield nuclear weapons to achieve its aims without severe consequences. Let's hope so, anyway.

I don't buy that in the slightest.

Only country that's ever used nukes in anger is the USA, of course. They're the fuckers to watch out for.