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Tories to privatise Child Protection.

Blagsta said:
They're already privatising probation services.
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But probation services are dealing with people after they've been convicted through the judicial process which is still state owned. The key issue is the coercive power, vested by statute, to take children away from the parents, potentially being passed to private companies. The profit motive will inevitable result in perverse incentives, and it hasn't exactly worked well in other sectors where they've been caught fiddling the figures and the like. God help us if this goes through. :(
 
The minute this happens I'll retrain and do something else. The minute that the needs of the child are suborned to the need for financial returns is the moment I part company with the profession.

A lot of non-statutory services work on a "payment by results" basis, but anyone with children should feel disturbed and horrified by statutory services framed in this way. The most difficult families may be shunned, and departments will look for "quick wins" to justify funding. Gove really is a fucking lunatic.

I get the impression that this is more "seed-planting", introducing concepts into the debate that will be rejected now, but move the medium to long-term parameters of discussion in a certain direction. As with so much else regarding their cuntish worldview, this is how the debate gets framed.

This United Kingdom. FFS. :mad::mad::(
 
We have to fight it with everything we've got. We don't have a choice. Atos. ATOS, for God's sake, contracted by the state to assess and remove children.

I'm trembling with anger. They treat the people of Britain as a petri-dish for their ideological experiments, playing politics with their lives, whilst labelling professionals as hardcore Marxist subversives.

I can't think of another western country that regards social work like this. This shit is so fucked up :mad:
 
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Chip Barm said:
Coming soon, the most vulnerable children as commodities. What could possibly go wrong with the likes of Serco and G4S in charge?

http://www.theguardian.com/society/...on-services-department-for-education-proposes
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Unfortunately, as with all the other "reforms" to the criminal justice system, this has been on the cards for the Tories since the Major govt. Last year I mentioned that the Tories would go on a "slash and burn" rampage if they thought that they were likely to lose the election. I'd say this, along with the fuckery with probation services, are prime examples of Tory attempts at social sabotage.
 
They don't recruit and employ social workers though. Imagine this as the future social worker.

Asylum-Transport-Assistant.jpg


'Hello I'm Kathy from G4S social services. We've had concerns raised about the welfare of your child may we come in?'
 
eatmorecheese said:
The minute this happens I'll retrain and do something else. The minute that the needs of the child are suborned to the need for financial returns is the moment I part company with the profession.

A lot of non-statutory services work on a "payment by results" basis, but anyone with children should feel disturbed and horrified by statutory services framed in this way. The most difficult families may be shunned, and departments will look for "quick wins" to justify funding. Gove really is a fucking lunatic.

I get the impression that this is more "seed-planting", introducing concepts into the debate that will be rejected now, but move the medium to long-term parameters of discussion in a certain direction. As with so much else regarding their cuntish worldview, this is how the debate gets framed.

This United Kingdom. FFS. :mad::mad::(
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I'd agree with the point that I've highlighted, except that I was a Civil Servant in the Prisons dept of the Home Office when the seeds (privatisation of all penal and care services) were first planted, 20 years ago. :(
I'm pretty certain the Tories will push this hard, and that the Lib-Dims will march merrily along with it. I'm not even sure that Labour will make much of a fuss, as all three parties are drenched in neoliberalism.
 
purenarcotic said:
There are truly no depths these cunts won't sink too. :mad: There are not enough words for how angry I am about this.
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Purely from the point of view of your clients, this is an incredibly damaging move, sure enough.
However, if you take a deep breath and then contemplate the long-term harm this could have on clients, as well as on social solidarities and relationships, and on the ability of society to "police" this service provision, the picture becomes even bleaker. :(
 
You are depressingly correct, Mr Panda :(

I'm glad I didn't go into social work now because this would make me quit. I graduated from a social policy degree last year and I recently read a report about what degrees have declined in terms of graduate employability and earning potential. My degree has declined the sharpest since this government came to power. I really wanted to work in the public sector and be part of running civilisation as it were but it's all been destroyed now by this great big shower of shit in London.
 
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Doctor Carrot said:
The charities seem to have £ signs rolling through their eyes at the mere suggestion of this.
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So many of them drank the Kool-Aid with regard to becoming service providers way back during Blair's second govt, and so many of them were tied into service provision contracts that went tits-up because of so-called "austerity measures", that some of them would suck off a tramp if it got them some income.
 
Is out of topic but soon will privatise lamp post, can you image walking and we have to put 1 pence but in reach areas will 10 pence and Tories will say is far poor pay less.
 
To the neo liberal economics dogmatists, there's nothing the state does that can't be marketised. No area of human interaction, no services on which people rely, that can't be made profitable. But for now, they still have to live on the same rock as the rest of us. :)
 
It is obviously part of an evil plan to create super soldiers. G4s are given the contract and fail as they did in the olympics armed forces are forced to take over and suitable children are syphoned off to the super soldier program.

Only things that make sense. Why on earth would anyone think giving G4/s given their history are suitable partners for this? Child protection services have a problem which won't be solved by tarting up the offices while slashing the pay and conditions of the workers.
 
ViolentPanda said:
some of them would suck off a tramp if it got them some income.
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Haha thanks for making me laugh with this bit because I actually feel pretty sad about this news, more sad than angry. It really shows how nothing is sacred to these cunts. It's just filthy.....filthy, filthy, filthy and desperately sad :(
 
cynical and rhetorical question ......
...... just how low can the condems sink, in their headlong rush to crush the workers.


E2A - I mean those who really work - not the type of bankers that get those obscene bonus payments and wreck other peoples' lives by creating a recession that the press hyped up
 
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StoneRoad said:
cynical and rhetorical question ......
...... just how low can the condems sink, in their headlong rush to crush the workers.
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Not ALL workers. Just those in the Public Sector, and those so poorly paid they have to claim benefits to top up their wages :(
 
Chip Barm said:
. What could possibly go wrong with the likes of Serco and G4S in charge?
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As you say, what indeed.....
Serco, the private outsourcing giant, is to be investigated by MPs after it was forced to disclose a secret internal report revealing evidence that it failed to properly investigate a claim of repeated sexual assaults by one of its staff against a female resident at Yarl's Wood immigration detention centre.

The document, which was marked confidential, was made public last week following a four-month legal battle between Serco and Guardian News and Media. Lawyers said the report demonstrates a culture of disbelief towards women inside the detention centre, which is run by Serco, and hailed the high court's decision forcing Serco to disclose the document as a victory for greater transparency.

The revelation comes a day after it was disclosed that Serco could be among companies to take over the running of privatised children's social services, including child protection, under proposals being considered by Michael Gove's Department for Education.
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http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2014/may/17/mps-serco-yarls-wood-centre-sex-assault-claim
 
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