torchwood
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Just watched the first episode and liked it. But then it was written by Doctor Who's head honcho script writer so no surprise there.
A few actors nicked from Doctor Who too, apart from Cap'n Jack. The new recruit, the woman PC, played the telepathic scullery maid in the Charles Dickens episode.
A few actors nicked from Doctor Who too, apart from Cap'n Jack. The new recruit, the woman PC, played the telepathic scullery maid in the Charles Dickens episode.
fudgefactorfive
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Loki said:
is it just me or is everything Russel T Davies does riddled with a sense of nepotism?
also, exactly what definition of "camp" are people using, especially the ones who thought Torchwood was "camp"? What was camp about it? Camp's a bit more nuanced than just meaning "silly and cheap" imo ....
Stigmata
sexual tyrannosaurus
fudgefactorfive said:
Camp (style), an ironic appreciation of that which might otherwise be considered outlandish or corny
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Camp
gnoriac
lowly seer
Found it seriously dull and derivative, just waiting for "oh, it's bigger on the inside than the outside", which fortunately, never happened.
It may all work out, Dr. Who in the earliest of days went from initially scary to incredibly dull and no doubt about to be chopped, when the Tardis landed on Skaro...
It may all work out, Dr. Who in the earliest of days went from initially scary to incredibly dull and no doubt about to be chopped, when the Tardis landed on Skaro...
fudgefactorfive
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Brockway said:
Apart from Psychic Maid turning up in Torchwood, there's Christopher Eccleston (Our Friends In The North -> Doctor Who), David Tennant (Casanova -> Doctor Who), David Tennant's partner Sophia Myles showing up as the Girl in the Fireplace (Doctor Who) ... maybe "riddled" was OTT
But I ran this past my actor boyfriend and he said, don't be stupid, of course directors re-use actors they like, that's the way it's always been.
White Lotus
Provisional Buddhist
I thought nepotism was giving jobs to your relatives?
Maggot
The Cake of Liberty
Great review by Charlie Brooker in the Guardian yesterday:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/theguide/columnists/story/0,,1932445,00.html
'In fact Scooby-Doo (more than, say, the X-Files or Buffy) is probably the show most analogous to Torchwood, in that both series revolve around a fresh-faced team of meddling kids tackling an ever-shifting carnival of monsters in a world of childlike simplicity. The Torchwood gang even have their own version of The Mystery Machine, although theirs is a spectacularly ugly SUV with two daft strips of throbbing LED lights either side of the windscreen whose sole purpose is to make the entire vehicle look outrageously silly - they might as well have stuck a big inflatable dick on the bonnet, to be honest.'
http://www.guardian.co.uk/theguide/columnists/story/0,,1932445,00.html
'In fact Scooby-Doo (more than, say, the X-Files or Buffy) is probably the show most analogous to Torchwood, in that both series revolve around a fresh-faced team of meddling kids tackling an ever-shifting carnival of monsters in a world of childlike simplicity. The Torchwood gang even have their own version of The Mystery Machine, although theirs is a spectacularly ugly SUV with two daft strips of throbbing LED lights either side of the windscreen whose sole purpose is to make the entire vehicle look outrageously silly - they might as well have stuck a big inflatable dick on the bonnet, to be honest.'
madamv
Oi! With the poodle already
I have just watched eps 1 and 3 back to back. (Didnt record 2 ) and I thought it was tv fluff. Good expression btw! I dont watch much tv and wanted to check this out after all the hype.Brockway said:Well that's the problem for a lot of people I reckon. The hype. I can image you sitting there arms folded, saying: "Come on then, impress me!" If you'd have just come across it one evening without knowing anything about it you might have thought it was an enjoyable piece of televisual fluff.
Not bad. Except that Capt Jack reminds me too much of Tom Cruise. May watch it again, maynt. Depends if I have enough time. It wont be one of my gotta watchits
eta - oh and Owen is the image of that Pete off big brother
beesonthewhatnow
going deaf for a living
I enjoyed last night - a lot darker in tone. Next week should be interesting...
Vintage Paw
dead stare and computer glare
Yeah, last night's was okay. But good god Owen man, get thee to Rada 
Hawkeye Pearce
We're your friends man...
I think its ludicrous but is strangely enjoyable. A lot of camp, cheesy moments but i think someone as clever as Davis knows exactly what he's doing with this. I watched the first two episodes whilst high and it was perfect stoned viewing
Oh yeah and the welsh girl is very hot
Oh yeah and the welsh girl is very hot
Termite Man
zombie flesh eater
belboid said:
I agree , utter toss . And bringing cyberman into it as well is just shite . It's bad enough that Dr Who has to rely on recycling the same old "monsters" to spice things up but to have the spin off series do it as well is just pathetic and shows a lack of invention and creativity in the writers to be able to create a decent monster themselves !
Agreed. BSG is far better than this drivel (ooh bloody hell, Jones the Steam is a bloody martian love!). That show actually has a story, acting, pacing, drama, pathos and quality written all over it. This is the usual beeb treatment of genre fiction - terrible.Echo Base said:
andy2002
To the Bat-poles!
I'm disappointed with Torchwood so far. Episode three had real potential – weird piece of alien debris fucks with the lives of regular humans – but it was just dull from beginning to end. I thought Captain Jack was a brilliant creation when he was in Doctor Who, but he isn't nearly so much fun here.
I'm surprised there are so many who think it's just shit.
Jack is the worst thing about this, it's true. He's just a bit too perfect-looking and bit too shit as an actor to carry off the quirky alien thing. He might develop a bit - the more we get to know about his character the more dark bits seep through - he doesn't sleep, he might be lonely, etc (a bit of Angel thrown into the mix there maybe?). He doesn't have the oddness or acting range of the two doctors so far, though. He worked OK as a foil to Chrisopher Ecclestone and Billy, but can't carry the show on his own.
Thank god for Gwen, then! Who, it seems to me, is just great. A really good TV presence and lovely eye candy, and Welsh to boot. What more could one ask!?
I quite like Ianto - a bit 'men in black'. The other two in the team are a bit shite, although not offensive in any way (the Owen guy was pretty good in the adaptation of Bleak House - but maybe he's too much of a character actor to play it straight in a role like this).
The story-lines have been fair-enough value in my book - quite liked episode three. Some good X-Filesey stuff never goes amiss. And I do enjoy location spottingin Cardiff. It's quite good that it's based in a small british city - adds to a strange sense of crumminess and fallibility about the whole production (despite it's expensive aerial shots, etc.) that I think is really endearing.
On the whole - keep it coming.
Jack is the worst thing about this, it's true. He's just a bit too perfect-looking and bit too shit as an actor to carry off the quirky alien thing. He might develop a bit - the more we get to know about his character the more dark bits seep through - he doesn't sleep, he might be lonely, etc (a bit of Angel thrown into the mix there maybe?). He doesn't have the oddness or acting range of the two doctors so far, though. He worked OK as a foil to Chrisopher Ecclestone and Billy, but can't carry the show on his own.
Thank god for Gwen, then! Who, it seems to me, is just great. A really good TV presence and lovely eye candy, and Welsh to boot. What more could one ask!?
I quite like Ianto - a bit 'men in black'. The other two in the team are a bit shite, although not offensive in any way (the Owen guy was pretty good in the adaptation of Bleak House - but maybe he's too much of a character actor to play it straight in a role like this).
The story-lines have been fair-enough value in my book - quite liked episode three. Some good X-Filesey stuff never goes amiss. And I do enjoy location spottingin Cardiff. It's quite good that it's based in a small british city - adds to a strange sense of crumminess and fallibility about the whole production (despite it's expensive aerial shots, etc.) that I think is really endearing.
On the whole - keep it coming.
llantwit said:Yeah, good to get the Splott joke in there!
The accents don't bother me, as everyone knows, the valleys accent is superior in tone and quality to the Cardiff one anyway.
I agree - you lot speaks lovely.
I went to the Torchwood premiere at the St David's Hotel (feck knows why they invited me) and it was a right decadent laugh. Free booze all night - must have cost them an absolute fortune. All the stars were there mind Billie Piper, David Tennent, Andi Peters. Marvellous.
