torchwood
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Brother Mouzone
Ⓐnarcho-Cynicism
Is it me or are all BBC Sc Fi series really lame with terrible production values and look just so cringe worthy.
SHITE IMHO
SHITE IMHO
dogmatique
merde alors
What a miserable bunch of sods you lot are (by en large). I thought it was entertaining. Get that? ENTERTAINING!
What do you expect? 2001 A Cardiff Odyssey?
A tongue in cheek, camp sci-fi with sex and violence thrown in is what it was.
What more were you expecting?
Having said that, my expectations were pretty low, so it did well in my book.
What do you expect? 2001 A Cardiff Odyssey?
A tongue in cheek, camp sci-fi with sex and violence thrown in is what it was.
What more were you expecting?
Having said that, my expectations were pretty low, so it did well in my book.
I not read the thread admittedly, but did anyone else find that Episode 2 made NO FUCKING SENSE AT ALL!!
SPOILER!
Ok, a metorite flies over Cardiff and out into the countryside, where a gaseous alien escapes.
It then flies from out in the middle of nowhere in a forest, all the way into Cardiff city, it then flies around until it finds a female that works in a Sperm Donor Clinic...ie bypassing other females.
Ok this makes sense so far, but what happened at the end of the episode?
They trap it for 30 secs and it dies because our atmosphere is toxic to it.
Ok that isn't too bad, but 30 secs?
Just how long did it take it to fly from a forest and find that particular female? It did all that in less then 30 secs?
No, it survived for MUCH longer in our atmosphere, it made no sense, why did it die soo fast when trapped when it flew around over cardiff for soo long?
SPOILER!
Ok, a metorite flies over Cardiff and out into the countryside, where a gaseous alien escapes.
It then flies from out in the middle of nowhere in a forest, all the way into Cardiff city, it then flies around until it finds a female that works in a Sperm Donor Clinic...ie bypassing other females.
Ok this makes sense so far, but what happened at the end of the episode?
They trap it for 30 secs and it dies because our atmosphere is toxic to it.
Ok that isn't too bad, but 30 secs?
Just how long did it take it to fly from a forest and find that particular female? It did all that in less then 30 secs?
No, it survived for MUCH longer in our atmosphere, it made no sense, why did it die soo fast when trapped when it flew around over cardiff for soo long?
kyser_soze
Hawking's Angry Eyebrow
Good plot hole - why not write to Russell T Davis and ask him?
Exactly - answered yer own question there didn't you. I can't see how any sci-fi post-Buffy could take itself seriously. Torchwood (like the new Dr Who) is full of high camp and jokey references to the sci-fi genre. Just cos it's got blokey love scenes too doesn't mean it's not meant to be funny.wishface said:
poster342002
PROPER leftwing socialist
Oh dear oh dear - from this thread it really is putting me in mind of Garth Merenghi's Darkplace. 
fudgefactorfive
New Member
poster342002 said:Oh dear oh dear - from this thread it really is putting me in mind of Garth Merenghi's Darkplace.
*thinks* Hmmm ... he's right!
belboid
Exasperated, not angry.
It's just about possible that the mist stuff could have travelled that quickly to infect ya lassie, but we just didnt see it doing so. Tho, yeah, that is a pretty crappy attempt at an explanation.
Entertaining tosh, tho full of plot holes.
eg - in Dr Who, Torchwood was an incredibly well funded research institutin in the centre of London. Now its a rag n tag operaton in a Cardiff sewer. Torchwood was originally set up by good Queen Vickie, and was explicitly British - PM watsername spcifically ordered its use in one of the DW episodes. Yet now Cap'n Jack tells us Torchwood is beyond any single government - when did that happen? inteeresting tat he specified the UN as a 'single government' - did he mean ZOG, the US or the lizards were controlling it do we think? I hope its lizards, that would be a great episode.
The whole thing looks like a Buffy rip off (& nowt wrong with that) with episode 2 being a direct rip off from an episode of Angel.
Entertaining tosh, tho full of plot holes.
eg - in Dr Who, Torchwood was an incredibly well funded research institutin in the centre of London. Now its a rag n tag operaton in a Cardiff sewer. Torchwood was originally set up by good Queen Vickie, and was explicitly British - PM watsername spcifically ordered its use in one of the DW episodes. Yet now Cap'n Jack tells us Torchwood is beyond any single government - when did that happen? inteeresting tat he specified the UN as a 'single government' - did he mean ZOG, the US or the lizards were controlling it do we think? I hope its lizards, that would be a great episode.
The whole thing looks like a Buffy rip off (& nowt wrong with that) with episode 2 being a direct rip off from an episode of Angel.
fudgefactorfive
New Member
belboid said:
Yeah. Torchwood was EVIL for fuck's sake - it was run by psychotic warmongering "I did my duty for Queen and country" types that pick fights with aliens just because they feel like it and ran planet-wide parallel-universe experiments that nearly killed everyone.
Now suddenly it's an anarchist cell running out of a disused toilet in Cardiff.
dogmatique
merde alors
Who said it was meant to be "serious"?
How serious can a spin off from the camp fest that is Dr Who be?
How serious can a spin off from the camp fest that is Dr Who be?
dylanredefined
Not a house elf a tiger
They explained how torchwood 1 got zapped so their an out station.Imagine a large coorporation going up in flames and just leaving the geeky r&d department .
Though whats evil about shooting aliens and rebuilding the british empire anyway?
Though whats evil about shooting aliens and rebuilding the british empire anyway?
I thought it was really good. Loved the copper running about with her hair down, and the two episodes, the second being an adult themed one. Is that gonna be a regular feature?
And Cpt Jack being immortal - that's handy innit.
Best thing on TV on a Sunday at 9pm.
I will be watching next week.
And Cpt Jack being immortal - that's handy innit.
Best thing on TV on a Sunday at 9pm.
I will be watching next week.
GarfieldLeChat
fucking awesome but wrong
hmm what did i expect on a shoe string budget... shit i don't know blake seven perhaps... camp silly deleirious yet fantastic scripts that nearly 35 years on still stand up.... will torchwood... will it fuck...dogmatique said:
dogmatique
merde alors
wishface said:
Show me a quote where any of them say "Torchwood is supposed to be a serious, straight-faced Science based drama. There'll be no laughing here!"
I think you're mistaking "adult themes" with "seriousness".
Guineveretoo
Mostly bewildered
I watched this last night, but mostly because I was staying up anyway (I am on holiday - it's compulsory!), so I didn't have any particular expectations. Although I did think Barrowman was a bit of allright when I saw him in Doctor Who and in Dancing on Ice (he was robbed, he was robbed!)...
Anyway, I enjoyed it last night. I didn't think it was meant to be taken seriously. I thought it was a bit of fluffy fun, even though there were deaths all over the place, and a bit of moralising. I also agree with folks who say that the alien infected teenager was particularly well acted. I think we should watch out for her. Barrowman was a bit wooden, but who cares? He is only eyecandy anyway, isn't he?
Anyway, I enjoyed it last night. I didn't think it was meant to be taken seriously. I thought it was a bit of fluffy fun, even though there were deaths all over the place, and a bit of moralising. I also agree with folks who say that the alien infected teenager was particularly well acted. I think we should watch out for her. Barrowman was a bit wooden, but who cares? He is only eyecandy anyway, isn't he?
kyser_soze
Hawking's Angry Eyebrow
Just to recap...
Captain Jack was in the first season of the new series - initially as some kind of cop/time travelling looter from the 31st century, and again in the last two eps of that season, and he was made immortal by Rose when she did her God-in-a-tracksuit bit and destroyed the God of Daleks etc.
Torchwood 1 was destroyed in the climax of S2, when the Daleks and Cybermen come through a trans-reality portal in the top of Canary Wharf that Torchwood had been using to generate 'ghosts' of the dead, which as we all know were in fact Cybermen coming over from the alternate universe where Rose's dad was alive, and where she is left stranded in order to save the universe as we know it.
Hope that makes things clear...up to the point of 'How did Captain Jack end up at Torchwood in Cardiff?'
Captain Jack was in the first season of the new series - initially as some kind of cop/time travelling looter from the 31st century, and again in the last two eps of that season, and he was made immortal by Rose when she did her God-in-a-tracksuit bit and destroyed the God of Daleks etc.
Torchwood 1 was destroyed in the climax of S2, when the Daleks and Cybermen come through a trans-reality portal in the top of Canary Wharf that Torchwood had been using to generate 'ghosts' of the dead, which as we all know were in fact Cybermen coming over from the alternate universe where Rose's dad was alive, and where she is left stranded in order to save the universe as we know it.
Hope that makes things clear...up to the point of 'How did Captain Jack end up at Torchwood in Cardiff?'
belboid
Exasperated, not angry.
Hopefully it will be explained a bit more, but let us speculate......
following the destruction of T1 the 'powers that be' decided having a bunch of madly zealous 'patriots' running the show was a bad idea as it was too likely to lead to egomaniacal displays of power, and be an obvious target for the aliens. hence it had to be shifted off somewhere quiet and crappy that no one in their right minds would want to visit. Along comes Cap'n Jack, says I'll do it' - they laugh, until he decides to, basically, steal the place, at which point they shoot him, realise he's immortal and not, therefore, to be messd with.
They tell him he can take the whole shebang as long as he buggers off to aforementioned shithole and insists it is absolutely nothing to do with the UK goverment.
following the destruction of T1 the 'powers that be' decided having a bunch of madly zealous 'patriots' running the show was a bad idea as it was too likely to lead to egomaniacal displays of power, and be an obvious target for the aliens. hence it had to be shifted off somewhere quiet and crappy that no one in their right minds would want to visit. Along comes Cap'n Jack, says I'll do it' - they laugh, until he decides to, basically, steal the place, at which point they shoot him, realise he's immortal and not, therefore, to be messd with.
They tell him he can take the whole shebang as long as he buggers off to aforementioned shithole and insists it is absolutely nothing to do with the UK goverment.
