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I hope that ending doesn't mean that's the end of Torchwood. 2 series of awful, now a week of utter awesomeness - we want more!!!
 
OMG - we are kinda stunned here,

I never thought it would end so ... so... bleakly

Fantastic television. Really, really good.
 
Dark as fuck, don't think I've ever seen anything mainstream which went so grim with so little moralising; in fact not sure I've ever seen a child being killed on a mainstream show, let alone by the apparent good guys. Excellent, really really good. Almost bought a tear to my cynical eye even.
 
Jesus fucking Christ. I want to personally murder that Prime Minister.

I was whispering 'don't do it' to Jack even though he didn't really have a choice (and, well, he wouldn't have heard me anyway. Too far away).

It'd be interesting to see what kind of Britain would be left after the government tried to kill all the poor people's kids.
 
YouSir said:
Dark as fuck, don't think I've ever seen anything mainstream which went so grim with so little moralising; in fact not sure I've ever seen a child being killed on a mainstream show, let alone by the apparent good guys. Excellent, really really good. Almost bought a tear to my cynical eye even.
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Yeah, that's what made it so good, not just your traditional boring happy ending.
 
scifisam said:
Jesus fucking Christ. I want to personally murder that Prime Minister.

I was whispering 'don't do it' to Jack even though he didn't really have a choice (and, well, he wouldn't have heard me anyway. Too far away).

It'd be interesting to see what kind of Britain would be left after the government tried to kill all the poor people's kids.
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Aye, would be cool if the next series is set in a chaotic, riot riddled Britain where everyone's at war against the government. Probably won't be of course given how Dr Who lives in the same sort of timeline.
 
QueenOfGoths said:
OMG - we are kinda stunned here,
I never thought it would end so ... so... bleakly
Fantastic television. Really, really good.
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Same here, fuckinell. Got knot in my stomach from it all. Wow, loved that.

I reallly realllyyyy thought Jack's grandson might come back to life...u know...being Jack's grandson n all. . but fuck, he didn't. :(
 
gnoriac said:
With 1 or 2 exceptions virtually all the main characters came out of that smelling of shit.
Another 1st on television?
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Lois, maybe? I guess Gwen and Rhys couldn't do much more than try to save individual children. PC Andy, Ianto's sister and her husband - a fair few stayed true. Of course, even Jack did the 'right' thing, but it was bloody horrible.

@feyr: Me too; I never usually cry at TV or the movies at all, but didn't stop till about ten minutes after this ended.
 
If Jack was doing the right thing, then wasn't the government also doing the right thing? Sacrifice of the few for the benefit of the many ... :confused:
 
magneze said:
Yeah, but the numpty took off his body armour! DOH! :D
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Yeah, that was really odd. :confused:

I'm not sure why the female minister thinks she'll be in charge when she was the one who suggested getting rid of the poor kids, and that's all on tape too. I know they had to make a decision, but how could anyone in that room expect to survive once it was all made public? I mean physically survive too, not just politically.
 
agricola said:
maybe it was a metaphor for something... but then he has always been a bit daft.
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It was him not being a policeman. He was struggling between being a policeman and being a man. The policeman needed to do what the army said, the man, the member of the community knew what they were doing was wrong
 
I think he took it all off cos it was his police uniform and he was being Andy not PC Andy.....




Edit - Snap! madz :p


Edit2 - Snap! QOG :p
 
scifisam said:
Yeah, that was really odd. :confused:

I'm not sure why the female minister thinks she'll be in charge when she was the one who suggested getting rid of the poor kids, and that's all on tape too. I know they had to make a decision, but how could anyone in that room expect to survive once it was all made public? I mean physically survive too, not just politically.
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agricola said:
maybe it was a metaphor for something... but then he has always been a bit daft.
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I though it was meant to show him symbolically stripping away his allegiance to the state and the authorities - or maybe I'm reading too much into it :oops:
 
agricola said:
maybe it was a metaphor for something... but then he has always been a bit daft.
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Unburdening himself of his authoritarian shackleszzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz.

Fucking great moment though.

So there's no way back for Torchwood after that is there, or at least no way back for Captain Jack in Cardiff.
 
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