His statement?
This Morning. Phillip comes out as gay.
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andysays
Love and solidarity
OK, I obviously didn't read it as carefully as I might have
Reno
The In Kraut
Andysays is right. I'm currently watching his coming out on youtube because curiosity got the better of me. It's all a little cringey in the way these things are. Holly on his behalf reads out the statement that it has been "a conflict he's been living with for a really, really long time" and he claims that he's been open with his wife along the way.
In my experience it is very rare in a Western, reasonably liberal society that a man would not have been aware of his sexuality at his age. The truth usually is that they've been aware of being gay for a long time, but struggled with it due a variety of reasons. In his case it may well be that he loves his family and that was more important to him.
In my experience it is very rare in a Western, reasonably liberal society that a man would not have been aware of his sexuality at his age. The truth usually is that they've been aware of being gay for a long time, but struggled with it due a variety of reasons. In his case it may well be that he loves his family and that was more important to him.
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I think they're quite young, strident, everyone's not quite left or politically sound enough for them, - in that annoying way some politically aware people can be, esp when young. They've made a twat of themselves and rather than own it, they're just lashing out.
Sad twat. What I posted is a perfectly normal and common viewpoint. Anyway, I'm not wasting anymore time on this bullshit, I've got better things to do than bicker about Philip fucking Schofield all fucking day long, obviously you guys haven't.
Reno
The In Kraut
Thank you for keeping us informed.
keybored
Well done. You remember cat good.
Disruptive Conduct
I'm not a banned returner and it's pure paranoia to assume that I am. I know about this site through a friend of mine. Anyway, like I say, I've got other things to do now so bye bye. I'll let you all continue obsessing over Philip Schofeild's sexuality since it's such a vital topic.
maomao
普費斯
He's not some keto nut from the west country is he? And I'm not assuming, I'm idly speculating. On work time as well so there.
FridgeMagnet
Administrator
Was wondering why this was nine pages. I've put a thread ban and a warning point on.
Reno
The In Kraut
For many straight people this may be totally irrelevant, but the more people who are in the public eye come out of the closet, the more being LGBT+ becomes normalised. It’s not like we are living in a society free of homophobia and prejudice, there still is a lot of homophobia about. This may be a joke to anybody who has never suffered homophobia, to someone struggling with their sexuality right now, it may be a lifeline.
farmerbarleymow
I'm Petee's spirit animal
Same here - I've obviously seen him on telly over the years, but never paid a great deal of attention to him - never been interested in breakfast or daytime telly. I don't think I've ever given consideration of his sexuality.
Puddy_Tat
naturally fluffy
sorry, and i don't want to make this sound like a personal attack, but no it's not.
being heterosexual is the 'normal' / default assumption from early childhood onwards.
straight people don't 'come out' because there's no need to, society in general just assumes people are straight.
straight people don't often get discriminated against / get turfed out of their parents' home / lose jobs / get duffed up for being straight or being perceived as straight.
doing 'normal every day' things for a straight person (like mentioning or being seen with your partner) are things that are an act of 'coming out' for a gay person - and things that gay people have generally tended to avoid or at least think twice about doing. just one personal angle - i was in my 40s before i held hands with someone in the street. when i was in my late teens / 20s, there would have been a high chance of getting duffed up or nicked for it.
yes, all of the above is better in the UK than it was in the 80s, and i've no personal knowledge of what it was like in the 50s when gay male activity was still a criminal offence. or of countries where you can still get locked up or worse...
Clair De Lune
Apocalypse cocktails
Aww good for him. It sounds like it's been a very painful secret and I hope he feels better now he's spoken of it.
He's clearly a very loving and loved person. It must have been so hard for him to tell his wife and family.
It must have been so difficult to live without the possibility of ever sharing chemistry, attraction, passion, sensuality, lust or indeed romantic love with someone.
He's clearly a very loving and loved person. It must have been so hard for him to tell his wife and family.
It must have been so difficult to live without the possibility of ever sharing chemistry, attraction, passion, sensuality, lust or indeed romantic love with someone.
maomao
普費斯
I was, perhaps clumsily, trying to separate sexual behaviour and sexual identity. A celibate but openly gay person is in more danger of being physically attacked than a married man with children who discreetly frequents cruising spots or watches gay porn.
bimble
floofy
Basically this. And if a 50-something yr old daytime tv presenter coming out has any meaningful impact on the universe its probably only going to be for other people of his sort of age who have lived through decades of totally unchecked homophobia and not felt able to say anything for decades. To anyone else whats the relevance really so good, him doing this might be of some help to people who have been through real shit.
Well, surely he did with his wife, for a time. A long time. Still, life happens. Changes happen.
It's wierd all the sympathy and celeb fawning. People seem to be assuming he sat with legs crossed celebate for 30 years, for all the love he appears to have he probably has been shagging away all this time. This could be his wife saying Im divorcing you we raised the kids but I'm done. It feels like a load of BS you get from a celeb who's on a damage limitation mission. Fuck all to praise
He didnt come out on TV. He came out on Instagram, then went on TV almost immediately afterwards.
He could have made the announcement and then done the mawkish interview a few days later once the public had digested the news. That would have enabled his wife to weather the inevitable media storm with him rather than watch his very public catharsis from afar.
Clair De Lune
Apocalypse cocktails
Surely he did What?
you’re seem to be assuming that the two of them didn’t discuss this at all and agree together how they’d handle it before he made the public announcement
maybe I’m naively looking for the best in people, but that seems more likely to me than he just sprung this on his family yesterday
Maybe the whole process was all agreed, but it doesn’t alter the fact that this chronology has done her no favours. His bit is done; the story now becomes more about her and how she is coping.
By positioning himself ahead of the story he’s, inadvertently or not, forced his wife into the position of victim.
Why not let her announce they’re separating and then taking ownership of the fallout himself?
Mrs Miggins
There's been a slight cheese accident
I've been thinking...the more people who come out as gay or queer or wherever they are on what is becoming clear is a whole spectrum of gender and sexuality, the more the old fashioned men vs. women gender stuff becomes irrelevant. The future will be gender neutral and sex discrimination will become a nonsesne. Not in the way I thought it would but in a better way because we will all become...just humans who can express ourselves however we like. And that is a world I really want to live in.
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