Phillip Schofield leaves This Morning

[platinumsage]

Sometimes there's mention of forsaking all others in there

That's in the declaration by the priest prior to the vows, and to which a_chap presumably would have responded "I will".

 

[kenny g]

But then marriage is a biblical invention

Hardly. Plenty of non- bible led folks in many parts of the world have been getting married for aeons.

 

[ElizabethofYork]

He made his living from being on telly, all smiley and chatty, acting like he was our friend, pretending, pretending. We're all quite capable of being dishonest, by lying or withholding the truth, but being discovered, found out, is particularly bad for reputations. Blair was criticised for his Iraq policy, but what really got people was not so much the hundreds of thousands of deaths but the fact that he lied about weapons of mass destruction. I'm not putting Schofield in the same category as Blair, but that's what annoys people. If he lied about this, then what else is he lying about?

But don't all tv presenters put on an act? They're hardly going to say something like "I'm in a right bad mood today and I hate you stupid fuckers" are they?

 

[planetgeli]

But don't all tv presenters put on an act? They're hardly going to say something like "I'm in a right bad mood today and I hate you stupid fuckers" are they?

If Frankie Boyle did daytime TV...

 

[andysays]

Sometimes there's mention of forsaking all others in there

Yep, pretty sure that was mentioned in mine

 

[gosub]

But why is any issue between him and his ex wife a matter for public debate, speculation, and derision? It's a private matter, between them.

If he made vows with anyone, it was with her, not with us. I don't get why anyone else thinks it is a problem that affects them.

It is a private matter. Though from what has been made public both her and her kids have been supportive of Mr Schofield. (On top of the support and sympathy Mr Schofield illicited via his employer).

As much as I agree with Dan Walker's recent tweet on the subject, it's them, the wife and kids whom have my genuine sympathy.

 

[A380]

UK. Legal bit, if you don't have an imaginary friend and want to get married in his (always his) club house this is what you have to say. You can add anything else (maybe not anything) you like.

I am now going to ask each of you in turn to declare that you know of no legal reason you may not be married to each other.

Are you (Partner 1’s name) free lawfully to marry (Partner 2’s name)?

Partner 1: I am.

Are you (Partner 2’s name) free lawfully to marry (Partner 1’s name)?

Partner 2: I am.


Now that you have both declared that you are free to marry, we have come to the part of the ceremony where you take each other as husband/wife and husband/wife. Please repeat after me:

I, (Partner 1’s name), take you (Partner 2’s name), to be my wedded wife/husband.

I, (Partner 2’s name) take you (Partner 1’s name), to be my wedded wife/husband.

 

[savoloysam]

But don't all tv presenters put on an act? They're hardly going to say something like "I'm in a right bad mood today and I hate you stupid fuckers" are they?

I remember James Whale doing that right back when he had a late night Friday TV show and lets not forget Pierce Morgan flouncing live on air

 

[gosub]

But don't all tv presenters put on an act? They're hardly going to say something like "I'm in a right bad mood today and I hate you stupid fuckers" are they?

As Lorraine Kelly legally proved for tax purposes

 

[Wilf]

You can add anything?

Partner 1: I am. the eggman, they are the eggman

Partner 2: I am. the walrus, goo goo g'jub

 

[tim]

But don't all tv presenters put on an act? They're hardly going to say something like "I'm in a right bad mood today and I hate you stupid fuckers" are they?

I don't know about TV presenters, but I put on my happy face every time I walk into a classroom.

As to Schofield, he had sexual relations with someone 40 years younger than him for whom he had found a job. That should be considered unacceptable, as should the horrible media hounding that Schofield is now experiencing.

 

[kebabking]

I don't know about TV presenters, but I put on my happy face every time I walk into a classroom.

As to Schofield, he had sexual relations with someone 40 years younger than him for whom he had found a job. That should be considered unacceptable, as should the horrible media hounding that Schofield is now experiencing.

I want to agree with the whole of this, but I have a reservation:

If this wasn't Schofield, but was the Chief of the General staff with an 18/20yo junior soldier, or a Tory MP with a parliamentary researcher, or a Headteacher in Kidderminster, would we be describing this as 'hounding', or this simply be accountability?

Do we judge the actions of people simply on what they did, or is it about who they are and the industries they are in?

If it was a Home Secretary, would we be seeing #BeKind, or would the pitchforks be out in good style?

CGS earns rather less than a quarter that Schofield. A Tory MP earns less than an 1/8th, a Headteacher would probably be on less than 10%.

 

[krtek a houby]

I want to agree with the whole of this, but I have a reservation:

If this wasn't Schofield, but was the Chief of the General staff with an 18/20yo junior soldier, or a Tory MP with a parliamentary researcher, or a Headteacher in Kidderminster, would we be describing this as 'hounding', or this simply be accountability?

Do we judge the actions of people simply on what they did, or is it about who they are and the industries they are in?

If it was a Home Secretary, would we be seeing #BeKind, or would the pitchforks be out in good style?

CGS earns rather less than a quarter that Schofield. A Tory MP earns less than an 1/8th, a Headteacher would probably be on less than 10%.

Guess when it comes to the Home Secretary versus the presenter, the former tend to shaft a multitude while the latter (allegedly) a handful.

Not that it's to be condoned if the worse allegations are true.

 

[Kevbad the Bad]

But don't all tv presenters put on an act? They're hardly going to say something like "I'm in a right bad mood today and I hate you stupid fuckers" are they?

I'm not justifying, just observing people's reactions. If TV watchers feel a close relationship with a particular presenter they may well, at some level, feel a personal betrayal which would not be there for some politician.

 

[platinumsage]

I want to agree with the whole of this, but I have a reservation:

If this wasn't Schofield, but was the Chief of the General staff with an 18/20yo junior soldier, or a Tory MP with a parliamentary researcher, or a Headteacher in Kidderminster, would we be describing this as 'hounding', or this simply be accountability?

Do we judge the actions of people simply on what they did, or is it about who they are and the industries they are in?

If it was a Home Secretary, would we be seeing #BeKind, or would the pitchforks be out in good style?

CGS earns rather less than a quarter that Schofield. A Tory MP earns less than an 1/8th, a Headteacher would probably be on less than 10%.

MP Jerry Hayes was reported by the News of the World in 1997 to have had an affair with an 18-year old male A-level student (when the age of consent was 21), for whom he also paid travel expenses and obtained a parliamentary pass. He got a lot more sympathetic coverage than Schofield has had.

 

[iveivan]

I'm not justifying, just observing people's reactions. If TV watchers feel a close relationship with a particular presenter they may well, at some level, feel a personal betrayal which would not be there for some politician.

It’s an odd world where is TV presenter is held to a greater standard than the a member or parliament.

 

[Wilf]

It’s an odd world where is TV presenter is held to a greater standard than the a member or parliament.

Oh, I dunno.

 

[kebabking]

MP Jerry Hayes was reported by the News of the World in 1997 to have had an affair with an 18-year old male A-level student (when the age of consent was 21), for whom he also paid travel expenses and obtained a parliamentary pass. He got a lot more sympathetic coverage than Schofield has had.

And do you think that was, or should be now, appropriate?

 

[gosub]

It's because Thou shalt not commit adultery, is one of the ten commandments. It's all very biblical. It's a biblical way of describing someone who cheats on their husband or wife.

But then marriage is a biblical invention I think. So maybe if you get married, you should also follow the 10 commandments. I dunno.

Commit, meaning to comit a crime. Adultery is still a crime in other cultures. Here it's a values statement I suppose. In other cultures bigamy is still legal. But it's a crime here.

It's why we don't say " committed suicide" any more. Thoughts, words, language.. usually preceded an overdue change in attitude.

I read that book! He dies at the end , but there's a twist

 

[Dystopiary]

Nick Cohen was writing articles for the Observer and elsewhere for years after women said he was sexually assaulting and harassing them, and still he hasn't been fully held to account for what he's been doing. Looks like it's only coming out in (some parts of) the British press since the NYT reported on it the other day. I'm a bit surprised Urbs are talking more about Schofield.

 

[A380]

I read that book! He dies at the end , but there's a twist

I thought the author nailed it.

 

[Magnus McGinty]

Nick Cohen was writing articles for the Observer and elsewhere for years after women said he was sexually assaulting and harassing them, and still he hasn't been fully held to account for what he's been doing. Looks like it's only coming out in (some parts of) the British press since the NYT reported on it the other day. I'm a bit surprised Urbs are talking more about Schofield.

One is a ‘National Treasure’ whilst the other isn’t I guess.

 

[platinumsage]

And do you think that was, or should be now, appropriate?

The coverage in both cases or the affairs? I'm not sure I have a strong opinion on either tbh.

 

[Dystopiary]

One is a ‘National Treasure’ whilst the other isn’t I guess.

Yeah I suppose.

 

[AverageJoe]

It's this sort of thing reminds me so much of South Park, I think we've all learnt something today etc. Wonder who the urban Kyle and Cartman and butters etc are.

I can't remember which Poster keeps putting forks in toasters and other unfortunate accidents but they are deffo Kenny.

 

[twistedAM]

One is a ‘National Treasure’ whilst the other isn’t I guess.

One bought any car, the other didn't.

 

[maomao]

Nick Cohen was writing articles for the Observer and elsewhere for years after women said he was sexually assaulting and harassing them, and still he hasn't been fully held to account for what he's been doing. Looks like it's only coming out in (some parts of) the British press since the NYT reported on it the other day. I'm a bit surprised Urbs are talking more about Schofield.

There's less to say about Cohen because he's clearly a disgusting sex pest. The Schofield case is less clear cut so there's more to argue about.

 

[Dystopiary]

There's less to say about Cohen because he's clearly a disgusting sex pest. The Schofield case is less clear cut so there's more to argue about.

That's true too.

 

[HoratioCuthbert]

It all comes down to trust. If someone has been lying to himself, his family, the general public or whoever for a very long time, for whatever reason, they will have difficulty being believed and finding sympathy. If they also are in a role where their entire working life they pretend things in front of the whole country, or those unfortunate enough to watch them, then that difficulty increases exponentially. And they earn an awful lot of money. That's what does it.

LOLOL this post again. KTB's greatest hit.

 

[Kevbad the Bad]

LOLOL this post again. KTB's greatest hit.

Thank you. It is one of my best.