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Theresa May's time is up

So, after all that, neither party, at least at the top, wants to get manoeuvred into calling for a ref2 - certainly don't want to end up being the first one to call for it. It's a kind of prisoner's dilemma made of shit. What do Labour do now? Wait till May comes back with another tweak or declaration (with or without an article 50 extension/annulment) - and just hope enough tories also vote against it to mystically win them another vonc the day after? Labour have made this a parliamentary game and lost - and don't have any other options because they can't conceive of it relating to anything/anyone outside of parliament. May hasn't won and may never win, but she's probably the only one out of her and Corbyn who can win. Corbyn's hope's now rest with about 9 anna soubry's. Ain't going to happen unless something genuinely game changing happens.
 
A minor subplot in this at the Libdems are half-hinting they won't keep backing voncs unless Corbyn supports ref2, managing to be both principled and unprincipled in the same breath.
Labour has not ruled out tabling further no-confidence votes in the days ahead, in the hope of peeling off exasperated Tory rebels and triggering a general election. But on Wednesday night other opposition parties sent a letter to Corbyn, which said they expected him to honour his promise to back a public vote if Labour failed to get an election.
A Lib Dem source suggested the party may not back future no confidence votes if it felt they were a way to evade the issue. “We will support any real opportunity to take down the Tories with relish. We will not be party to Corbyn using spurious means to avoid Labour policy, by pursuing unwinnable no-confidence votes,” the source said.
Theresa May survives vote, but Britain remains in Brexit deadlock
 
A minor subplot in this at the Libdems are half-hinting they won't keep backing voncs unless Corbyn supports ref2, managing to be both principled and unprincipled in the same breath.
Theresa May survives vote, but Britain remains in Brexit deadlock

So if it came down to a chance to bring down a tory government, and a situation in which they somehow held the balance of power, they'd let that opportunity go by?

Looks like they've already forgotten exactly what it was that fucked them up so badly in the first place.
 
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So if it came down to a chance to bring down a tory government, and a situation in which they somehow held the balance of power, they'd let that opportunity go by?

i seem to remember they let an opportunity like that go by at some point in the major government. i can't remember the detail.
 
She is being increasingly linked in a negative way to knife crime police-austerity stuff.

May 'has not listened' on knife crime

Mrs May said the deaths of young people were "appalling" as she announced an upcoming summit on knife crime.

But Lord Stevens told the BBC: "I don't think she listens, quite frankly, to what she's being told."

BBC home affairs correspondent Danny Shaw

Theresa May served as home secretary for six years when forces in England and Wales faced deep budget cuts and - on her instructions - drastically reduced the use of stop-and-search.

That is why claims that a shortage of police resources and fewer searches have contributed to the surge in serious violence appear to be so uncomfortable for her.

If correct, it would mean her policies were in some way responsible.

In contrast, the current incumbent, Sajid Javid - whose brother is a chief superintendent in West Midlands Police - has no prior record at the Home Office to defend.
 
so it's to be no-deal brexit, with a general election straight after.

interesting strategy. FWIW, I approve :thumbs:
 
Ah, I was thinking more 5000 troops trying to placate several million hangry British subjects.. While Mrs May and her cabinet of six cats and Chris Grayling repeat the mantra of strong and stable whilst Michael Gove asks himself it this is his moment
That can happen, too.
 
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