Theresa May's time is up

[co-op]

yes...heres something i saw yesterday -
'A political choice': UN envoy says UK can help all who hit hard times
UN visiting Jaywick (several times described as most deprived part of the UK - in Essex, just south of Clacton) about Austerity - people sharing how hard life is and about the cuts in services - who do they consistently vote for? Tories.
By some margin (more than double) at the last election
Essex in general

This is just silly.

Jaywick's in the Clacton seat which voted UKIP at least once and was the old Harwich seat that was won by Labour quite a few times.

More specifically Jaywick's in Golf Green ward of Tendring District council which was won by UKIP in 2018, with Labour second and the tories in a poor third place.

 

[butchersapron]

Like when Joschka Fischer was the Foreign Secretary and kept Germany out of the Iraq invasion?

He helped bring neo-liberalism via Schröder and normalised the use of/build up of the german military again after kosovo. Him shouting down the other greens for their pacifist position at the party conference is the line.

 

[co-op]

He helped bring neo-liberalism via Schröder and normalised the use of/build up of the german military again after kosovo. Him shouting down the other greens for their pacifist position at the party conference is the line.

I know I know, it's just if you want to slag off a German political party for being pro-bombing the Greens are hardly first choice. 5th maybe.

 

[redsquirrel]

I know I know, it's just if you want to slag off a German political party for being pro-bombing the Greens are hardly first choice. 5th maybe.

Those other parties are not being proposed as a "left" alternative though.

 

[co-op]

Those other parties are not being proposed as a "left" alternative though.

True but out of the miniscule number of things that the German Greens could actually point to that they influenced in their time in govt, keeping Germany out of the Iraq coalition is about the only important one.

 

[not-bono-ever]

Thoughts and prayers are with the PM today

 

[eatmorecheese]

Thoughts and prayers are with the PM today

 

[Wilf]

Thoughts and prayers are with the PM today

And the Archangel Farage visited Theresa and said 'today is not the day you will return to the wheat field, for I have work for you'.

 

[Poi E]

It's mainly the votes from england that do anything at all because of the size of the country. Why turn that to nationalist crap.

You are right I could have easily said "voters abandoning Labour in Scotland" keeps the Tories in (for all that either of my observations add to anything.) I chose a nationalist slant by identifying England.

 

[hash tag]

What with a variety of people leaving the cabinet today and probably more to follow, JRM has certainly hit the fan today. The Bastard bojo seems to be sitting on the fence for fear it could cost him top job.

Who on earth would change places withwith May at the moment. How does she manage to get out of bed in the morning

This is all we need to get brexit sorted.

 

[The Fornicator]

I think she's an ice cold calculating machine. The brexit nut jobs hate her deal, the remoaners hate it, no one has any kind of alternative.

And only two of them were willing to leave their precious cabinet jobs for what they 'believe in'. Fuckin bunch of mercenary fuckwits - wind and piss the lot of them.

Her often repeated code of the 'national interest' means she has a deal that reflects 52/48 i.e. we're leaving but not by much and only with the essentials (no more freedom of movement, cash, ECJ, etc). Referendum is advisory only, she's reflecting the whole nation, that's exactly what she wanted all along..

She's telling Remoaners and hard Brexiteers to shove it up their jackseys, and is now handing it over to the HoC for yet more wind and piss.

 

[Poi E]

This is the trouble when you have no principles. I thought about that when watching Rees Mogg on TV yesterday. Loathsome man with awful principles, but he has some. May, I think, really has nothing to guide her.

 

[Maltin]

I think she's an ice cold calculating machine. The brexit nut jobs hate her deal, the remoaners hate it, no one has any kind of alternative.

At last count, 16 million people had an alternative to this shit show.

 

[brogdale]

Shares in Dominos rise!

 

[killer b]

political correspondent prickteases can fuck off. a fiver it's fuck all.

 

[Kaka Tim]

sounds like confidence vote is on -

Unconfirmed and from a single (always previously reliable) source - but hearing that the 48 letters are in and Downing Street are preparing for a no confidence motion in Theresa May as Conservative leader...

Jonathan Isaby (@isaby) on Twitter

she may quit before it gets to that point - especially if gove resigns.

 

[brogdale]

political correspondent prickteases can fuck off. a fiver it's fuck all.

Dunno...that Press conf. yesterday looked/sounded like a leadership contest speech; I reckon she already knew at that point.

 

[killer b]

Dunno...that Press conf. yesterday looked/sounded like a leadership contest speech; I reckon she already knew at that point.

I'm hearing reports that 48 letters have now been received by Graham Brady has been trailed at literally every single crunch point since the election last year. Each time it's turned out to be bullshit - maybe this time it isn't, but I won't believe it until it comes from a real source.

 

[brogdale]

I'm hearing reports that 48 letters have now been received by Graham Brady has been trailed at literally every single crunch point since the election last year. Each time it's turned out to be bullshit - maybe this time it isn't, but I won't believe it until it comes from a real source.

Never more believable, though.

"I fight to win"

 

[killer b]

I just think that off-the-record briefings by unnamed brexiter tories are more about achieving a particular outcome than reporting fact, and we probably shouldn't be giving them the time of day.

 

[brogdale]

I just think that off-the-record briefings by unnamed brexiter tories are more about achieving a particular outcome than reporting fact, and we probably shouldn't be giving them the time of day.

tbf, that's sage advice and I have to admit that as I responded to your post R6 was playing Public Enemy's 'Don't believe the hype"!

 

[brogdale]

Still reckon it's the end game for May, though.

 

[danny la rouge]

Dunno...that Press conf. yesterday looked/sounded like a leadership contest speech; I reckon she already knew at that point.

My guess is that she called it thinking there would be 48 letters by teatime. But there weren't, so she spent half an hour with her scriptwriters changing the speech. That's why it ended awkwardly and the gathered press didn't know it was over.

I honestly don't think there will be 48 letters now. I think Skinny Hitler jumped too soon.

I'm with killer b: nobody has the numbers for anything. Not Moog and his synthesised rebellion, not May for a snap general election (434 MPs or whatever it is), not the Labour right for a 'national unity coalition', not Corbyn (in the unlikely event of a GE) to change the composition of the house, not electorate leavers changing to remainers (who'd actually vote), not enough movement to Yes for Sturgeon to call indyref2, and indeed not May to force through the draft deal.

Best guess: minor tweaks sold as huge concessions, and the draft deal limps through.

 

[killer b]

Not Moog and his synthesised rebellion

nice.

 

[Wilf]

Best guess: minor tweaks sold as huge concessions, and the draft deal limps through.

That's where I'm at. Euro bods could of course stop that by making sure there are no more negotiations - I'm not even sure though what the protocol is now for 'further discussions' with the EU. But yeah, overall I still think 'something' will get through Parliament. May and her merry band did everything they could to shake that prediction yesterday, but I'm still just about going with it.

Whole thing feels like the 'debate' about intelligent design. There are no obvious routes through to any outcome at the moment, given the 'complexity' required to line up the bulk of the tories with enough of labour to get an outcome. But ultimately there will be an outcome of some sort so, by definition, the planets will align for something.

 

[MIKE PETERSSON]

Librarian promoted to Head Teacher not great idea.

i blieve in equal opportunity

 

[MIKE PETERSSON]

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May needs a clear mind now for all these Brexit shit' has gotten her mind

 

[danny la rouge]

May needs a clear mind now for all these Brexit shit' has gotten her mind

So she should use your medical marijuana, right?

 

[The Fornicator]

Of all people, Liam Fox now using her code 'national interest'. Given he's a 'no deal is better than a bad deal' type, that's the biggest u-turn so far.

She's home and hosed, surely. All about building a critical mass around this middling position she's made her stand on.

She's going to pull this off.

 

[killer b]

She was never at risk, all the wet knickers were a waste of everyone's time, and a massive distraction from the somewhat more important issue of the contents of the agreement. Probably on purpose.