redsquirrel
This Machine Kills Progressives
He was as easily as good a cricketer as Ambrose, and probably in the same class as Holding. Richards was a cut above.
Theresa May's time is up
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tbh trying to maintain that Geoff Boycott was anything other than an outstanding Test cricketer is ridiculous. By all means criticise the man for what comes out of his mouth but saying he wasn't on a level with some of the West Indian cricketing knights is silly.
Slack/rushed mistake sorry
That was based on my false impression when I first heard the story that it had been Botham who made the comment
... and I should read before posting 
All my other comments till stand though.
PS I do think it's at least open to debate about whether the brilliant West Indians of that era were the better??
andysays
Love and solidarity
Boycott was clearly an outstanding batsman on an individual level, but arguably not an outstanding test cricketer on a team level, both in his indvidual performances and as a leader, whether as captain or senior player he was frequently divisive rather than bringing the team together.
Comparing him to Richards, who was arguably sometimes similarly arrogant but mostly managed to channel his individual brilliance and arrogance in a way which inspired and brought together his team, shows clearly what was lacking in Boycott as an all-round test cricketer.
And that's before we get on to his obvious character flaws (which in some cases is putting it mildly).
(and why are we discussing this on this thread anyway?)
agricola
a genuine importer of owls
He was a great player, but looking at the list of West Indian cricketers awarded a knighthood (whether ours or theirs) doesn't really suggest any candidates that Boycott was on a level with.
Wilf
Slouching towards Billingham
Yes, Boycott was a great player, but as others have said the rest of cricketing life - as captain and colleague - detracts from his overall cricketing persona. And then just about everything else off field detracts even further. At one level I don't give a fuck about gongs and honours, but still hope Boycott doesn't ever get one.
Edit: wiki tells me he already has an OBE. Which adds even more to the idea he should keep his moaning mouth shut.
Favelado
J'adore South Shore
Yeah, just because it would upset him. You don't have to believe in honours to want him to not get one so that he dies miserable.
Wilf
Slouching towards Billingham
I have a mental image of all the knighted Windies players surrounding his deathbed, wearing their gongs. 'We've all come along to give you the award you most deserve. Pass the pillow will you Sir Viv?'
SpookyFrank
A cheap source of teeth for aquarium gravel
Wilf
Slouching towards Billingham
Indeed + it would be out of order for him to get a Knighthood for services to cricket when he did his best to fuck the sport up by organising a rebel tour to South Africa (and even more, gave 2 fingers to the anti-apartheid movement). Should have been banned for life, along with the rest of them. His tour was a massive issue in the 80s and all the fuckers who were giving it the 'I don't get involved in politics, I just want to play cricket' were dishonest scum.
redsquirrel
This Machine Kills Progressives
No, he's probably better than Ambrose, miles and miles ahead of Richardson and probably the equal of Hall and Roberts. Sobers and Richards are clearly better players.
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Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
I hope he does get a knighthood to show again how shit the honours system is
maomao
普費斯
Why are you judging Ambrose so low? He was rated the best bowler in the world for a significant part of his career and I've still never seen a pair of bowlers as menacing as him and Walsh.
redsquirrel
This Machine Kills Progressives
He's a very, very good bowler but I'd place Marshall, Holding and Garner ahead of him and Walsh.
Wilf
Slouching towards Billingham
May's too dull to maintain our hatred at anything more than an abstract level. At the moment she's running free through a cornfield, so Boycott has to stand in.
A380
How do I change this 'custom title' thing then?
Given her P45 at conference today!
A prankster just ran into Theresa May's speech and handed her a P45
A prankster just ran into Theresa May's speech and handed her a P45
DotCommunist
So many particulars. So many questions.
the whole speech was awful. In content, delivery and coughing. Maybe there was a bong under the pulpit
moonsi til
worked it out now!
I watched the Lee Nelson video & struggled to understand what the applause was for? Applauding someone being man handled by security or that he did what everyone else wants to do?
not-bono-ever
meh
Well, that has cheered me up no end. I may go and have a lunchtime heart starter to celebrate
Orang Utan
Psychick Worrier Ov Geyoor
Best summed up by this clip:
DotCommunist
So many particulars. So many questions.
lots of 'young people'ing as is normal, slipped in something about building a new tech college in every city.
lexiters got a mention- hard left isolationists apparently
lexiters got a mention- hard left isolationists apparently
Nine Bob Note
Self-Isolating before it was fashionable
Wilf
Slouching towards Billingham
Mation
real life adventure worth more than pieces of gold
I think you mean Lorence Nightingal.
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