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It is fascinating and horrifying to watch, for the first time in my memory, a Western government that is not even going to insincerely pay lip service to giving a shit about women, people of colour, poor people, people with physical or mental illnesses or people with disabilities etc. They're not even bothering to pretend that they care.
It's a roller-coaster ride that will end in tears
 
" a bunch of Saudis..." bin laden was a Saudi, was Saudi funded and he was behindcthe attacks on the world trade centre.
No, surely not, it was them Iraaqis!

I know it Doug Feith's awesome Powerpoint told me so.
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Well even Doug was more believable than Steve Bannon etc.

One might think rather than trying to keep Americans safe Trump was simply a bigoted Queens twonk trying to leverage greatly hyped terrorist fears against folk like Iraqi and Syrian translators working with the US military at risk to not just themselves but kin. Meanwhile folk who might well fund an attack on the US get the executive treatment.
 
Who'd have thought it? It would appear Trump is spending a lot of time watching Fox News...
A connection has become increasingly apparent in recent days between President Donald Trump's more provocative statements on Twitter and recently aired Fox News segments.

As CNN's Brian Stelter pointed out on Thursday, Trump dubbed former Army intelligence official Chelsea Manning an "ungrateful traitor" who Trump said made former President Barack Obama look like a "weak leader." The tweet came just minutes after "Fox & Friends Early" ran a segment characterizing Manning in those exact terms.
 
It is fascinating and horrifying to watch, for the first time in my memory, a Western government that is not even going to insincerely pay lip service to giving a shit about women, people of colour, poor people, people with physical or mental illnesses or people with disabilities etc. They're not even bothering to pretend that they care.

They are going to bother to pretend that they care.
 
Other countries will do the same to US exports. The clown is starting a trade war.

It's hard to see it happening, at least not in that form. What are PepsiCo going to say to a 20% tax on all sugar imports?

On the other hand, history seems to have decided to start laughing in the face of "It's hard to see it happening"...
 
Trump Strategist Steve Bannon Says Media Should ‘Keep Its Mouth Shut’

“The media should be embarrassed and humiliated and keep its mouth shut and just listen for a while,” Mr. Bannon said during a telephone call.

“I want you to quote this,” Mr. Bannon added. “The media here is the opposition party. They don’t understand this country. They still do not understand why Donald Trump is the president of the United States.”

Mr. Bannon, who rarely grants interviews to journalists outside of Breitbart News, the provocative right-wing website he ran until last August, was echoing comments by Mr. Trump this weekend, when the president said he was in “a running war” with the media and called journalists “among the most dishonest people on earth.”



Send the interns

Put your most junior people in the White House briefing room. Recognize that the real story is elsewhere, and most likely hidden.

A second message was to the press. You will be turned into hate objects whenever we feel like it. We can do that to you without providing right of reply because… what are you going to do about it? Small mistakes quickly corrected will be treated as evidence of malicious wrong doing by the entire group. (And you deserve that.) We are not bound by what you call facts. We have our own, and we will proceed to put them out regardless of what the evidence says. It’s not a problem for us if you stagger from the room in disbelief. We’re not trying to “win the news cycle,” or win you over. We’re trying to demonstrate independence from and power over you people. This room is not just for briefings, announcements and Q & A. It’s also a theater of resentment in which you play a crucial part. Our constituency hates your guts; this is the place where we commune with them around that fact.


Fox Philadelphia anchor suspended for saying Conway 'good at bull----'

A Philadelphia television morning show host was suspended Thursday after saying President Trump senior adviser Kellyanne Conway was "good at bullshit."

The reprimand came after Fox 29's "Good Day Philadelphia" co-host Alex Holley asked Mike Jerrick and two guests on set what Conway meant when she said "alternative facts" earlier in the week.
 
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Independent spins everything to create clickbait these days. She "made no comment on whether the NHS would be off the table in any future talks."
Nor did she make any comment as to whether it was on it. Its a non-story. Its a clickbait headline. From the Independent. Again.

tbf, you wouldn't expect her to make no comment on such an explosive question unless they really were thinking about it. And, let's face it, what's the fucking point of Brexit if we get to keep the NHS?
 
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I'm scared.
Is this real Send the interns - PressThink ?

"A second message was to the press. You will be turned into hate objects whenever we feel like it. We can do that to you without providing right of reply because… what are you going to do about it? Small mistakes quickly corrected will be treated as evidence of malicious wrong doing by the entire group. (And you deserve that.) We are not bound by what you call facts. We have our own, and we will proceed to put them out regardless of what the evidence says. It’s not a problem for us if you stagger from the room in disbelief. We’re not trying to “win the news cycle,” or win you over. We’re trying to demonstrate independence from and power over you people. This room is not just for briefings, announcements and Q & A. It’s also a theater of resentment in which you play a crucial part. Our constituency hates your guts; this is the place where we commune with them around that fact. See you tomorrow, guys! "
 
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tbf, you wouldn't expect her to make no comment on such an explosive question unless they really were thinking about it. And, let's face it, what's the fucking point of Brexit if we get to keep the NHS?
leaving the EU always felt like joining the US to me....so im scared of whats to come here...however that link just plays on my fears!! without any evidence....yet
 
Trump Strategist Steve Bannon Says Media Should ‘Keep Its Mouth Shut’

“The media should be embarrassed and humiliated and keep its mouth shut and just listen for a while,” Mr. Bannon said during a telephone call.

“I want you to quote this,” Mr. Bannon added. “The media here is the opposition party. They don’t understand this country. They still do not understand why Donald Trump is the president of the United States.”

Mr. Bannon, who rarely grants interviews to journalists outside of Breitbart News, the provocative right-wing website he ran until last August, was echoing comments by Mr. Trump this weekend, when the president said he was in “a running war” with the media and called journalists “among the most dishonest people on earth.”



Send the interns

Put your most junior people in the White House briefing room. Recognize that the real story is elsewhere, and most likely hidden.

A second message was to the press. You will be turned into hate objects whenever we feel like it. We can do that to you without providing right of reply because… what are you going to do about it? Small mistakes quickly corrected will be treated as evidence of malicious wrong doing by the entire group. (And you deserve that.) We are not bound by what you call facts. We have our own, and we will proceed to put them out regardless of what the evidence says. It’s not a problem for us if you stagger from the room in disbelief. We’re not trying to “win the news cycle,” or win you over. We’re trying to demonstrate independence from and power over you people. This room is not just for briefings, announcements and Q & A. It’s also a theater of resentment in which you play a crucial part. Our constituency hates your guts; this is the place where we commune with them around that fact.


Fox Philadelphia anchor suspended for saying Conway 'good at bull----'

A Philadelphia television morning show host was suspended Thursday after saying President Trump senior adviser Kellyanne Conway was "good at bullshit."

The reprimand came after Fox 29's "Good Day Philadelphia" co-host Alex Holley asked Mike Jerrick and two guests on set what Conway meant when she said "alternative facts" earlier in the week.

They deserve it . They're lowlifes . They deserve no respect whatsoever .
 
They deserve it . They're lowlifes . They deserve no respect whatsoever .
Your posts on this stuff remind me of the stupid posts people make hoping someone rapes a rapist in prison. They don't seem to get that the person they're cheering on is also a rapist, only one who is going to get away with it because the particular power dynamics favour them.

And you accuse me of deference to power. :D
 
Your posts on this stuff remind me of the stupid posts people make hoping someone rapes a rapist in prison. They don't seem to get that the person they're cheering on is also a rapist, only one who is going to get away with it because the particular power dynamics favour them.

And you accuse me of deference to power. :D

I don't make those types of posts...at least not for a very long time now . The mainstream media however are scum . They deserve no respect whatsoever . The tragedy is its the wrong bunch of people pointing this out . But it doesn't make it any less true . I really hope people are taking it on board . It's true they were wholly partisan, wholly corrupt and addicted to lies . True they were so out of touch they simply didn't get why so many people were angry and disillusioned with the elite they were shilling for . That's all true and it needs saying in the US .

There was a distinctly unhealthy intertwining of media and the centre of power . A mutual backscratching exercise . That's over now . It's a good thing .

They themselves have gone overboard in a series of attempts to delegitimise the election . Whether it was gleefully publishing nude pictures of trumps wife..slut shaming pretty much..or shrieking he's a Russian agent into water sports . It started with smug ridicule and ended with the distinct whiff of coup about it .

They can't seriously be expected to be afforded any respect after all that . That smug little game is over now . They deserve to be humiliated . Maybe someday they'll go and actually do their jobs for once .
 
It’s also a theater of resentment in which you play a crucial part. Our constituency hates your guts; this is the place where we commune with them around that fact.

Great quote though!
 
They deserve to be humiliated .
A biggot jabbing his finger and saying FAKE NEWS, and then denying facts are facts when they're clearly facts is not humiliating anyone but the Trump-ets.
I think its making the mainstream media look like sane rational trustworthy people by comparison...that takes some doing
 
It’s also a theater of resentment in which you play a crucial part. Our constituency hates your guts; this is the place where we commune with them around that fact.

Great quote though!
Ye but that whole quote is not actually Bannon. It's just this man, describing in powerful made up words what he thinks the undertone / message was .

That was not at all clear to me from CRI 's post but good to know.
 
It's hard to see it happening, at least not in that form. What are PepsiCo going to say to a 20% tax on all sugar imports?
They won't say anything. They'll raise prices. I was just chopping some vegetables and noticed the label...."Product Of Mexico." Really a help to the average person for all imports to increase in price. The US exports a lot of stuff to Mexico. The labels on many products in the supermarket are in English and Spanish. Mexico will retaliate and Mexicans will pay more too. The poor will be hurt the most. American consumers will end up paying for this idiot's wall. Brilliant president business man needs to take Econ 101.
 
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