The stupidity of the anti-vaxx nutcases
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cupid_stunt
Chief seagull hater & farmerbarleymow's nemesis.
That's because they haven't been 'thinking', just dumb twats rather than full-on conspiraloons.
bimble
floofy
Me too, now, but I did years and years of putting up with it, pretending I didn't mind, couldn't hear etc. Absolutely can't tolerate it now possibly connected to how long i did.
BigMoaner
What A Load of Old Bollocks
yes, would love them to follow their logic through: no more NHS for them, no more road usage, no schools for their children, no benefits, no safety checks on their food, no police to turn up, no ambulances.
they are not so hard fighting to "regain them freedoms". they'd be truly free then.
LDC
On est tous des pangolins
I do think it's really notable that a significant section of the alternative/counter-cultural/hippie/new age/whatever scene has fully gone down this bonkers conspiracy route.
bimble
floofy
Its always been that way, in my experience, even before the internet, people (circle was drugs / hedonism with a "spiritual" gloss on it) were lending me david icke paperbacks in the 1990s.
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FridgeMagnet
Administrator
I wouldn't have expected that from an interview anyway but no they didn't. In no way would I suggest that they have come to the right conclusions as to what to do, or even thought it through. However what they also didn't do was bang on about chemtrails and 5G and vaccines changing our DNA.
(ETA: I have been to some of these marches to take photos and there are definitely people who do do the latter, in fact the majority of official speakers, but it's worth thinking about why other people might come along even if that's not what they believe.)
Yossarian
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I think I might still be socially distancing from these people when the pandemic is a distant memory.
LDC
On est tous des pangolins
We have often discussed that people go to those kind of events for a whole mix of reasons, some more understandable than others, some are maybe even reasonable. But tbh that's the same with some right wing demos, people are fucked over in a whole host of complex ways, and often have some legitimate concerns, but have gone down the wrong route in trying to address and make sense of them. These anti-lockdown things also act in a similar way to reactionary and right wing events that drag people in with all sorts of concerns, and then politicize them in a much worse direction. And similar in some of the ways they pray on and recruit from vulnerable and isolated people as well.
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FridgeMagnet
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It is precisely the same as the big right-wing demos like the first FLA ones, and I would say (and did iirc) the exact same thing about those too.
ETA: if there's a difference I think that's it that there's even less place for complaints about lockdown corruption and hypocrisy now in mainstream politics than the issues that pulled people out for the FLA.
tim
EXPLODED TIM! (Help me!!!)
The government has been paying most of my bills for the past year which doesn't mean I owe them any loyalty. I want to see them thrown out of the Palace of Westminster, loaded onto a barge dragged through the Traitors' Gate, and dumped in the dungeons of the White Tower, alongside Laurence Fox, Piers Corbyn, and James Dellingpole who will be paid to cough on them.
lazythursday
Averagely-Known Member
I've always been on the periphery of that sort of scene, which yes for me has been about the drugs and hedonism primarily, but there was always an underlying sense of solidarity / having something in common - which I do think has now been utterly shattered. I don't want to party with lots of those cunts any more.
rubbershoes
not the only raver in the village
Came across a particularly bonkers conspiracy theory recently. Heard about it in the US so inevitably it'll make its way here.
We all know covid is "just the flu", and not serious. So why do some people die? It's down to the doctors, of course. They're in on it. They could easily treat the mild respiratory conditions but they deliberately make it worse and some patients die. Why? So the doctors can harvest their knee fluid and sell it.
It's like they're trying to outdo each other with the absurdity of the stories.
In other news, PM me if you want any synovial fluid. Very pure. Special price for urbanites
We all know covid is "just the flu", and not serious. So why do some people die? It's down to the doctors, of course. They're in on it. They could easily treat the mild respiratory conditions but they deliberately make it worse and some patients die. Why? So the doctors can harvest their knee fluid and sell it.
It's like they're trying to outdo each other with the absurdity of the stories.
In other news, PM me if you want any synovial fluid. Very pure. Special price for urbanites
Yossarian
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And who's been pushing hard for vaccinations lately? None other than Toe-Knee Blair - the New World Order is clearly taunting us by leaving these obvious clues in plain sight.
Dystopiary
putting up a hook to hang my hopes upon
Same (tho less party-ish) and it's left me feeling pretty sad tbh.
nemoanonemo
Well-Known Member
Priti Patella
Shechemite
Be the sun and all will see you
Vax-a-nation. Say it out loud and tell me you aren’t joining the dots.
BigMoaner
What A Load of Old Bollocks
Mr.Bishie
pickled egg
No, nor freedom.
Cloo
Banana for scale
What I don't get is what they think the government gains from all this if it's a sham? I guess they would say 'Well, they're exercising CONTROL over us!/To stay in power' - although sadly, as polls have shown, including before all this shit, the British public won't even vote the fuckers out, so they'd hardly be worried about revolution. I'm sure the most capitalist fucking government ever would much rather have an economy that wasn't totally fucked and people spending more money and paying more taxes than feel oh-so-powerful because people are 'obeying' them by staying at home.
Presumably their answer is blah blah blah conspiracy, blah blah 'but add up the letters in their names and it comes to 642 which is nearly 666' blah blah Rothschilds blah secret paedo network blah tracking chips
I mean, honestly, even if it was about tracking chips, this would be a totally pointlessly difficult way of going about it. It would probably be cheaper, more effective and certainly easier, to offer everyone a free iPhone if they agree to have a government tracking chip.
Presumably their answer is blah blah blah conspiracy, blah blah 'but add up the letters in their names and it comes to 642 which is nearly 666' blah blah Rothschilds blah secret paedo network blah tracking chips
I mean, honestly, even if it was about tracking chips, this would be a totally pointlessly difficult way of going about it. It would probably be cheaper, more effective and certainly easier, to offer everyone a free iPhone if they agree to have a government tracking chip.
keybored
Well done. You remember cat good.
Cloo
Banana for scale
Well, exactly. They don't need to trick people into being tracked...Same thing
Shechemite
Be the sun and all will see you
Who is this wanker? This is one of the least obnoxious of his videos. ‘I am being persecuted’. It’s a grift obviously. Does he have a background?
Shechemite
Be the sun and all will see you
His commentary on mental health is of the delightful ‘stop whining’ oeuvre. Grifting off the nastiest of human impulses. Totally normal chap this.
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hitmouse
so defeated, thinks it's funny
Something I've been thinking for a while is that a like "guide to vaccines for people who hate big pharma" would be really good. Like, I don't like the pharmaceutical companies, and would not suggest that anyone blindly puts unconditional trust in pharma companies, or think that they're motivated by any kind of altruism. I still strongly support people getting vaccinated though. Like, I feel that there's a coherent argument to be made for why you can be pro-vaccine while also being very skeptical about the pharmaceutical industry, I don't think that I'm the person to string all that together though (especially not at 11 on a Saturday night).
Just saw this on my facebook:
BigMoaner
What A Load of Old Bollocks
Brilliant.
BigMoaner
What A Load of Old Bollocks
No coherence. Contradicts himself point by point.
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