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The stupidity of the anti-vaxx nutcases

My point is, no matter how daft you think my viewpoint is on this, I should be given the option to continue taking the AZ vaccines, avoiding the others if I so wish.
You are absolutely free to do whatever the hell you like regarding this are you not?
I think that what you need is to sort things out between yourself and your mum. She's who you're angry with really, not me.
 
You are absolutely free to do whatever the hell you like regarding this are you not?
I think that what you need is to sort things out between yourself and your mum. She's who you're angry with really, not me.
I just think you're a bit of a fruitcake if you seriously believe that just because someone didn't have the vaccination, there's a 50/50 that they hate Jews.

The hippy is free to do whatever he likes, but you're the one who is seriously considering ditching his girlfriend as a friend, over it.

If she packed him in down to some kind of ultimatum from you, would you really care about his feelings? Of course not. Fuck him, erh? He doesn't care about your feelings now, does he, he's probably an awful anti-semite, right?

I'm not angry, but I might be moderatly pissed off if this is all down to him admitting that he didn't take the vaxx when asked, rather than him trying to impose his docterine and poltiics onto people who didn't ask to hear it.
 
I just think you're a bit of a fruitcake if you seriously believe that just because someone didn't have the vaccination, there's a 50/50 that they hate Jews.

The hippy is free to do whatever he likes, but you're the one who is seriously considering ditching his girlfriend as a friend, over it.

If she packed him in down to some kind of ultimatum from you, would you really care about his feelings? Of course not. Fuck him, erh? He doesn't care about your feelings now, does he, he's probably an awful anti-semite, right?

I'm not angry, but I might be moderatly pissed off if this is all down to him admitting that he didn't take the vaxx when asked, rather than him trying to impose his docterine and poltiics onto people who didn't ask to hear it.

This is all just very weird. I am not considering ditching my friend, at all.
 
You're completly missing my point and you know it.
There might be unknowns out there. Then again maybe not.
We all know the AZ vaccine works differently than the others. I've had two of the things, so I'd rather carry-on taking those than expose myself to potenial unknown risks.
I gave you a plausable scenario. I don't have to explain in detail how that could happen for it to be plausable.
My point is, no matter how daft you think my viewpoint is on this, I should be given the option to continue taking the AZ vaccines, avoiding the others if I so wish.
You're completely missing my point and you know it.

There are certainly unknowns around there. Cheese sandwiches for example. Adding mustard to cheese sandwiches might produce a chemical reaction with the rennet that suddenly caused people to drop down dead. We all know that mustard is different to other foods. I'd suggest you avoid mustard on cheese sandwiches so as not expose yourself to unknown risks.

It's only plausible if you can give a mechanism for why it would happen. Otherwise you've just made it up.
 
Aren't Morlocks supposed to be technologically advanced? Bit hard to construct an underground empire when good engineering might as well be a form of black magic.

The Morlocks were formerly advanced people who had degenerated back to savagery from being kept underground.

IIRC Wells was drawing a parallel with the Victorian industrial working class being controlled and put at the service of the leisured/upper classes (Eloi)?
 
The Morlocks were formerly advanced people who had degenerated back to savagery from being kept underground.

IIRC Wells was drawing a parallel with the Victorian industrial working class being controlled and put at the service of the leisured/upper classes (Eloi)?

Interesting, my understanding was that some kind of role-reversal had taken place since IIRC Morlocks are described as hunting and eating the Eloi, who had become helpless in their indolence while the Morlocks retained something of a killer instinct. Thus it turns out that the Morlocks are the true masters of the Earth in that time. But it has been literally decades since I read that book, so I may be misremembering.
 
Yes, much the same - its been many years!

I think that was the point he was trying to make - The Eloi were having to pay for their millennia of domination over the Morlocks.

As well as his advocacy for non-Marxist Socialism, Wells was also a proponent of the Arts and Crafts Movement, so could have also been making a point about the demise of the traditional crafts/trades and skills of English life in the face of simple/repetitive industrial tasks.
 
The non-Covid deaths could still be linked to the vaccines, BUT it could be down to the way the vaccines are administered.
Well over 70% (by now, far more than 70%) of the population have been infected by SARS-CoV-2 (ONS, 2022). That virus doesn't just cause short-term respiratory disease but can also lead to significant longer term cardiovascular sequelae (DOI:10.1136/heartjnl-2022-321492).
So am I an "idiot" for avoiding vaccines other than the AZ while we have non-Covid unexplained excess deaths?
The risk from sequelae of SARS-CoV-2 infection is significantly higher than that from any vaccination (even the VITT/CAR/PF4 risk from adenovirus vectored vaccines).

AZD1222 is still under consideration for future vaccination options - right now it is in a phase 1 trial for intranasal administration as a booster. Separately, protein subunit vaccine options have been indicated as being included in the forthcoming autumn booster programme, so you could avail yourself of one of those, assuming you qualify.
 
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Yes, Because I made pains to explain that I'm not a conspiracy theorist when it comes to globalists, because I simply point people in the direction of the globalists rather than showiing people how I joined the dots. The worst advert for globalists is globalists. By snipping me, you implied that I am.
Wouldn't it be quicker and more honest to just type Jews instead of globalists?
 
There doesn't have to be.
Yet you brought up thalidomide in a discussion about covid vaccines. I'll ask again, why?
You keep working on the false premise that I'm trying to convince people not to take any one of the vaccines.
Where have I stated that?
You would ban me for making that argument and would probably have me murdered if I won it.
You appear to have become completely detached from reality at this point.
 
Yet you brought up thalidomide in a discussion about covid vaccines. I'll ask again, why?
I brought it up as an example of medication that was believed safe ... until it became apparant that it wasn't.

We believe all the Covid vaccines are safe ... until they aren't.

I don't understannd why so many people have a hangup over something so simple.

I want to stick to the AZ vaccination, so that if anything goes wrong in future, I know who to blame, not to mention minimising risk.

If you want to get yourself jabbed with a completly different vaccine each year, knock yourself out.
Where have I stated that?
You didn't, but you're taking me to seriously, as if you think I'm here with some kind of agenda about vaccines. I don't know how many times I have to tell people ... I seriously don't give a fuck whether people take the vaccination or not. Not even my own Mother., God bless her.

You appear to have become completely detached from reality at this point.
You banned me for a month over "anti-vax froth". What's done is done, I'm not bitter about it. Obviously having me murdered for winning an arguement was obviously said in jest.
 
There doesn't have to be.
You keep working on the false premise that I'm trying to convince people not to take any one of the vaccines.
You would ban me for making that argument and would probably have me murdered if I won it.
That last sentence is a good marker of how far down the rabbit hole you are. About 11 more stops before you get off at Qanon. Be careful with what you're reading out there. Check your hellscapes now and then.
 
I thought you said you weren't trying to persuade people not to have vaccines.
You win. It's impossible to justify my own fucking actions and choices concerning the vaccinations to person A without person B saying "You're anti-vax trying to persaude everyone else not to take them."

Round aorund around in circles we go.

Well I'm jumping off the merry go around. I'm no longer interested.

For the record, I don't give a fuck what anyone else does or thinks about the vaccinations.

So I'm going to fuck off out of this thread and if I find a way to ignore it all together I will.
 
Just to refresh your memories, I would like to remind you of the "freedumb march" that took place in Ottawa. People did not want to wear masks or get vaccinated, so they arrived in Ottawa and paralyzed the city until all covid restricions are lifted across the country.

It was a real big event, and Trudeau was their main target. People still have "F*ck Trudeau" stickers on their vehicles ad fly flags echoing the stickers.

They tried a reunion for the first year anniversary of their get together, bur only a handful of people showed up.



Right now, everyone is screaming about how China influenced the election to put Trudeau in power.

So, there will be another multi-day protest planned. Here is their agenda.


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eta: since every day starts with a morning prayer, I wonder what religion it will be in. Will it be one main religion a day, multiple religions each day....
 
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Just to refresh your memories, I would like to remind you of the "freedumb march" that took place in Ottawa. People did not want to wear masks or get vaccinated, so they arrived in Ottawa and paralyzed the city until all covid restricions are lifted across the country.

It was a real big event, and Trudeau was their main target. People still have "F*ck Trudeau" stickers on their vehicles ad fly flags echoing the stickers.

They tried a reunion for the first year anniversary of their get together, bur only a handful of people showed up.



Right now, everyone is screaming about how China influenced the election to put Trudeau in power.

So, there will be another multi-day protest planned. Here is their agenda.


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eta: since every day starts with a morning prayer, I wonder what religion it will be in. Will it be one main religion a day, multiple religions each day....

Since this appears to be the organiser, I can't see there being any Muslim prayers:



I also can't see there being anywhere near enough protesters to cause a "National Shutdown," especially since it's starting on a Saturday that's also April Fool's Day.
 
Just to refresh your memories, I would like to remind you of the "freedumb march" that took place in Ottawa. People did not want to wear masks or get vaccinated, so they arrived in Ottawa and paralyzed the city until all covid restricions are lifted across the country.

It was a real big event, and Trudeau was their main target. People still have "F*ck Trudeau" stickers on their vehicles ad fly flags echoing the stickers.

They tried a reunion for the first year anniversary of their get together, bur only a handful of people showed up.



Right now, everyone is screaming about how China influenced the election to put Trudeau in power.

So, there will be another multi-day protest planned. Here is their agenda.


View attachment 367657

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eta: since every day starts with a morning prayer, I wonder what religion it will be in. Will it be one main religion a day, multiple religions each day....

A bit like Skepta, only nowhere near as fun

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I brought it up as an example of medication that was believed safe ... until it became apparant that it wasn't.

We believe all the Covid vaccines are safe ... until they aren't.

I don't understannd why so many people have a hangup over something so simple.

I want to stick to the AZ vaccination, so that if anything goes wrong in future, I know who to blame, not to mention minimising risk.

If you want to get yourself jabbed with a completly different vaccine each year, knock yourself out.
This is pure unfounded, anti-science, ignorant, scaremongering anti vaxx froth. Again.

And desperately trying to link Covid vaccines with a non-vaccine from over half a century ago shows just how far you've disappeared down the loon-hole.
 
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