the sir jimmy savile obe thread

[elbows]

do you reckon it's true?

I would take the same approach as journalists are supposed to - need more sources.

 

[cesare]

In post no 1193 that ymu quoted

You haven't looked closely enough, Minnie.

But yours isn't redacted at all, and that could be a problem with all these injunctions flying about.

 

[Minnie_the_Minx]

Oh I realise it mentions a politician's name further on on that link, but I meant on the article itself, or is it another politician?

 

[Minnie_the_Minx]

You haven't looked closely enough, Minnie.

But yours isn't redacted at all, and that could be a problem with all these injunctions flying about.

oh, do you mean I should delete link?

 

[cesare]

oh, do you mean I should delete link?

Best ask a mod.

 

[editor]

I've had to remove some content relating to the claims by Ben Fellows.
This should hopefully explain why I was forced to take such a step.

If you have referred to any of this in your posts please edit them and remove any names (for now at least). [link removed]

 

[editor]

Will folks PLEASE not post up the names of living people who have not actually been formally accused or charged with anything relating to this topic?

 

[Minnie_the_Minx]

Best ask a mod.

No need. Got there before I did

 

[Tankus]

thought he had dodged a bullet
http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2012/oct/24/mark-thompson-jimmy-savile-new-york-times?

An NYT newsroom source said people at the newspaper had been "completely blown away" by Sullivan's decision to query in public Thompson's suitability as incoming CEO.

bit of a frenzy going on

 

[Gingerman]

And now the Fail is running accusations that he was a necro as well...

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...-colleague-Paul-Gambaccini.html#ixzz2AAI39fvp

Final nail in the coffin?

 

[dylans]

I am suspicious of the claims by Ben Fellows. He is not a reliable source. A quick google shows his name in connection to some pretty loony conspiracy sites including Alex Jones. We have to be careful here not to throw all rationality away in the rush to witchhunt. I remember the claims of satanic abuse in the 80s and the way that suspicions regarding their validity were dismissed in the hysteria surrounding them

I don't believe these allegations against institutions are indicative of conspiracy. I think they are really about organisations and the way that both authority is used and abused and how voices of the powerless are ignored and silenced in those contexts. It is no accident Saville targeted hospital patients and institutionalised kids. He knew that noone was going to believe a girl in a reform school over a "national treasure". No need for a conspiracy, just an understanding of the way authority and power works to the advantage of abusers in an institutional and organisational setting

 

[Pickman's model]

For once I agree with dylans, tempting tho it is to suggest that [xxxxx] is a paedo

 

[butchersapron]

Did we not cover the fellows stuff a near week ago?

 

[cesare]

Did we not cover the fellows stuff a near week ago?

Yeah. Looks like he's gone as far as naming names now, though.

 

[Louis MacNeice]

Did we not cover the fellows stuff a near week ago?

I'm glad you said that as I thought I was having a senior moment. The naming names is different but his qualification to do so remains questionable.

Cheers - Louis MacNeice

 

[Pickman's model]

Did we not cover the fellows stuff a near week ago?

As the bbc enters into the thread it should be no surprise there are repeats

 

[cesare]

As the bbc enters into the thread it should be no surprise there are repeats

 

[Treacle Toes]

Did we not cover the fellows stuff a near week ago?

I didn't see it TBH. Although I have been trying to avoid engaging completely with this stuff so reading with one eye so to speak. As Cesare says he has been 'naming names' this brings it on a step doesn't it?

 

[butchersapron]

I'm pretty sure he named then before - the url of the original link we discussed a week even has 'named' in it. Either way, it's now come to the attention of the tops.

 

[butchersapron]

That isn't exactly putting himself in a good light.

Seem like he spent the 70s and 80s with stuff just passing him by or not doing anything when it didn't, or 'the industry' did - this is him talking about his friend Jonathon King in 2001 - you can change the names to Savile and BBC for the industry:

Former Radio 1 DJ Paul Gambaccini, who was a friend at the time, said he never knew about King's activities.

But he believes the industry may have turned a blind eye to his behaviour while he was still "bankable".

Mr Gambuccini said: "Most of the people in the record industry would not have cared.

"For the great majority, what they would have been interested in about Jonathan King was 'What can you do for me?'"

 

[smokedout]

I am suspicious of the claims by Ben Fellows. He is not a reliable source. A quick google shows

precisely, even if you havent come across fellows before (which i did when looking into whether g4s were plotting to use workfare at the olympics) it takes seconds to establish he is a far from credible source, yet he still seems to have sucked countless people in

 

[happie chappie]

PA are now running this story:

http://uk.news.yahoo.com/tv-actor-charged-raping-boy-083302215.html

 

[butchersapron]

"The performer, who police have not publicly named because of his age"?

 

[happie chappie]

"The performer, who police have not publicly named because of his age"?

Because, I assume, he is too young rather than too old.

 

[butchersapron]

Because, I assume, he is too young rather than too old.

Must be - going to be a whole new load of speculation centring on all young male actors now i reckon.

 

[elbows]

Luckily I will get a break from this round of speculation, since I am so out of touch that I dont think I know the names of any actors that are young.

 

[Pickman's model]

Luckily I will get a break from this round of speculation, since I am so out of touch that I dont think I know the names of any actors that are young.

Don't worry, your ignorance will be ripped asunder

 

[The Octagon]

He was named by the Daily Mail when first arrested, a quick google brings it up.

Not naming him here.

 

[butchersapron]

**

 

[Wilf]

Thread shows admirable restraint.

If the actor is still underage and the alleged offences were Summer 2010 , he would have been no older than 13 then? Like Elbows, that stops me from speculating, but it's still very depressing.