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The Rational Proof of God's Existence

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In the meantime, it'd be interesting to see if anyone can pick up phil's argument and run with it to see what happens.
 
cesare said:
Yep, which is a bit irritating. But I've waited 48 years to be convinced so far, I daresay I can cope with another couple of weeks :D
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ture dat.

i think the real reason why Dwyer pisses a lot of people off is because even when he is talking shite and they know he is talking shite, most are still unable to actually nail him in the argument.
 
revol68 said:
ture dat.

i think the real reason why Dwyer pisses a lot of people off is because even when he is talking shite and they know he is talking shite, most are still unable to actually nail him in the argument.
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... so they focus on style rather than content? Probably.
 
revol68 said:
ture dat.

i think the real reason why Dwyer pisses a lot of people off is because even when he is talking shite and they know he is talking shite, most are still unable to actually nail him in the argument.
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No, it's because he ignores or insults them when they do.

You should be able to see for yourself.
 
Santino said:
If by 'style' you mean nasty personal attacks that he later claims is all 'banter'.
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oh wise up he's hardly that vicious and he probably takes more than he gives out, afterall nearly every thread some wit will pop up with the refrain Fuck Off Dwyer.
 
revol68 said:
You aren't going to get me to argue that exchange value provides rational proof of god's existence.
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I have a feeling there is only one person here that thinks there is any connection at all. I'm not even sure he believes it, I think he just wants to play what he thinks is a clever game of words. His frustration/irritation probably stems from the fact he has not managed to convince one person to jump his first hurdle.

I have only seen him spout misinformed/badly reasoned nonsense, vile bullish attacks and even lies. An interesting diversion perhaps, but an intellectual colossus he is not.
 
revol68 said:
oh wise up he's hardly that vicious and he probably takes more than he gives out, afterall nearly every thread some wit will pop up with the refrain Fuck Off Dwyer.
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When he takes a personal pop just to be a cunt, he gets told to fuck off.

What on earth is the problem with that you fookin' bleedin' heart? :mad:
 
brix said:
You're free to 'comment', I'm free to pull you up on it, people are free to report posts.
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Are the rest of us free to not give a fuck? Just checking like...

I'm sure there's some sort of point to be made about Dwyer and Cargo Cults. Not sure what though.
 
ATOMIC SUPLEX said:
It's very odd how you have quite quickly got your knickers in a twist over me. You launched yourself into writing vile things about my mother after I pointed out that you mentioned Kant in your first post after you said you had never mentioned him at all. A very small point I think.

I asked why, but all I ever got was abuse. Is that really what you call taking the piss Phil? It seems to me that you react rather strongly to anyone suggesting you are wrong. . . And admitting you are wrong or have lied? . . Well that just seems completely beyond you.
Can I assume this is also the reason you can't bring yourself to actually post up your reasoning that there is rational proof for gods existence?
The fact that you can't get anyone to agree to your very first point after three years would suggest that maybe you have got it all wrong again, no?
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it's how the whole JC2 and I thing started at the start of the year...

Dwyer had his physic dick trodden on and launched on one of his mental campaigns which ended up with all of us getting banned and a fair few people still believing his bollocks claims even tho JC2 didn't...

why let him back after the two weeks let the useless fucker rot for entity...
 
cesare said:
It might be a project, dunno about vanity though. Philosophy and theology is what he does, surely? If I was an academic, I'd perhaps do something similar in education/employment. I'm pretty sure that some of my views on employment would be controversial enough to generate a few responses :D
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Are you taking the fucking piss, ed?

Given that the daft cunt has said as much himself on here, you fucking well must be!
 
cesare said:
Well that's the part we're waiting to find out, surely? Because I suspect that phil will need to convince the unconvinced that to start with, there's a direct correlation between god/gods and money.
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I thought that his take translates to something akin to "money is the devil, therefore if the devil exists, so must G-d"?
 
ViolentPanda said:
I thought that his take translates to something akin to "money is the devil, therefore if the devil exists, so must G-d"?
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It's something like that. My understanding is that he's saying that witchcraft, magic etc has historically been about manipulation of the world through symbols and that money is a symbolic representation of alienated labour and has taken on a life of it's own, which manipulates human behaviour and can be thought of as "the devil". Interesting, but fairly bonkers IMO. I have seen a similar argument in the Disinfo "Book of Lies" guide to magic and the occult. Something about corporate symbols and logos being akin to magic sygils. Entertaining nonsense.
 
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't believe he has announced his job title on these boards so I've edited your post.
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He's announced that he's a professor. He's also, separately, announced his "field of endeavour".

It doesn't take a genius to put the two together.

Fuck's sake! :rolleyes:
 
Jonti said:
No, he doesn't. Seems to take some people in, though :)
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I'd mention the general themes of books he's written around the subjects cesare mentions, but I suspect that the ed would remove the info just in case I gave anything about dwyer away.

(You might get the impression I'm a bit pissed off at the ed. You'd be right.)
 
Blagsta said:
It's something like that. My understanding is that he's saying that witchcraft, magic etc has historically been about manipulation of the world through symbols and that money is a symbolic representation of alienated labour and has taken on a life of it's own, which manipulates human behaviour and can be thought of as "the devil". Interesting, but fairly bonkers IMO. I have seen a similar argument in the Disinfo "Book of Lies" guide to magic and the occult. Something about corporate symbols and logos being akin to magic sygils. Entertaining nonsense.
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Precisely, but if there's the possibility of a publication in it for phil... ;)
 
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