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The 'Naked Rambler' jailed for 22 months, following arrest within 60 seconds of his release!

I'd like you to explain what this man has done wrong in in clear terms, without appealing to tradition, popularity or some vague collective consensus

Well, he's broke the law for one thing.

E2a and his fucking arrogance - Fuck all do with tradition, consensus etc - I don't wanna see his cock and I don't want my brothers/sisters/nieces/nephews/godchildren etc seeing his cock either.
 
Nah, he's not - He's right(IMO) on some things, he's wrong (IMO) on others, he's not a cunt though. Nor a wanker. And he's right on this one.

mebbe he thinks im having a go at him over drugs and stuff . Im not and if i gave that impression to him im honestly sorry . Probably shouldnt have used the word crackhead . That was a bit insensitive .
 
He gets his dick out in front of everyone - Whether they like it or not - He doesn't seek their approval first. An arrogant wankers trick IMO.


SO FUCKING WHAT? WHAT THE FUCK IS SO FUCKING OFFENSIVE ABOUT A HUMAN FUCKING PENIS?

HE IS WALKING AROUND NAKED, NOT FLASHING PEOPLE. ANYONE OFFENDED BY THAT IS SICK IN THE HEAD.
 
Rebel without a cause, Brian Haw without a war. He's defending a principle, he's right, we shouldn't be hung up about bodies, but why take this to the wire (and beyond)? Feels like it's now and has long been an obsession rather than principle, sort of pacifist Charles Bronson. Who knows, might even be he can't face up to what his life might be like if he wasn't doing this? I'm sympathetic, but kind of not. It has to be said he's now choosing to 'fight' rather than engage in any kind of politics or conversation...

... but, having said all that the state is doing to him is despicable. Long periods in solitary will make worse whatever issues he has, spending millions by now (literally). It's beyond inhumane and it lacks any kind of creativity/sense. Fucking madness to be playing cat and mouse with him. Obvious solution is to ignore him and only ever get involved if he really does keep going near schools etc (which he doesn't). To be honest, he's a bit of an idiot in my book, but the English scots authorities are far, far worse.
 
Well, he's broke the law for one thing.

E2a and his fucking arrogance - Fuck all do with tradition, consensus etc - I don't wanna see his cock and I don't want my brothers/sisters/nieces/nephews/godchildren etc seeing his cock either.

we have a right not to see his cock, or anyone elses we dont want to see while going about our daily business . Walk into work naked and youll be sacked . Appear naked to a female work colleague and regardless of how non sexual you insist the situation is she has a pefect right to go to HR, demand your dismissal and refuse to ever work alongside you again or be alone with you again, naked or clothed . As do any of your work colleagues . We have a pefect right not to have to put up with peoples genitals we dont want to see . No matter how many whingy trendy libertarians insist we have no right to be offended and call us perverts if we dont agree with their oddball quackery.
 
Don't you think it shows rather a large lack of empathy, and also as stated; arrogance, to essentially force other people to accept his nudity whether they like it or not?

Personally I have no problem with the silly bugger being naked, but a hellava lot of people do... and therein lies the problem.

What if I was to decide I enjoyed going about my daily life smeared in my own feocal matter? Sod the rest of you, but I wish to ride the train to work/ go on holiday/ramble the cairngorms covered in my own shite. Fuck how it may offend or upset you... I'm going to do it anyway.

I'd be labelled an uncomprimising gobshite wouldn't I? Rightly so.

There are loads of beaches, natural places where this guy can happily enjoy being naked as the day without offending others. The fact that he refuses to, and persists with his actions is just antagonistic. Whether those people are 'right' to be offended by his naked body is not really the point, why would you knowingly do it? Stop rubbing it in their face, as it were :oops::D
 
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SO FUCKING WHAT? WHAT THE FUCK IS SO FUCKING OFFENSIVE ABOUT A HUMAN FUCKING PENIS?

HE IS WALKING AROUND NAKED, NOT FLASHING PEOPLE. ANYONE OFFENDED BY THAT IS SICK IN THE HEAD.

What's the diffference from walking round naked and flashing? Apart from a mac? I don't wanna see another guys cock when I'm out for a stroll about my business - The penis itself is not offensive - It's the arrogance of the man attached to it who feels the need to swing it about. And yeah, it'd be just the same script if it was a woman swinging (though there's much less scope for swinging) her clopper around.Just wear some clothers, ya clown.

And it's not even about that - This guy would clearly rather spend his time doing time or otherwise devoting himself to this (let's be honest) fucking pointless cause, rather than be there for his family. Something wrong there, no mistake.
 
He's defending a principle, he's right, we shouldn't be hung up about bodies, .

no offence, most of your post is commendable, but I fundamentally disagree with this . The vast majority of us arent hung up about bodies . We are perfectly comfortable with nudity in certain, and even many, situations . But there are situations were we arent comfortable with it and he is resolutely refusing to accept that . Hes not right, hes well wrong . As are you in this particular instance . His insistence that evryone should be totally comfortable with nudity at all times is simply his outlook, not how it is or even how it shoud be.

Ill give you just one example . The screws in the jails over here particularly dealing with the republican prisoners will put you on a charge if you get naked in front of them . They wont do full strip searches, they insist on you being partially clothed. Thats not them being cunts, although they are . Thats because after years and years of a very high suicide rate of screws manning the H Blocks the prison psychiatrists worked out that its not mentally healthy for a lot of people, particularly men, to be confronted continually with the sight of other naked men . Which was how the prisoners were on the blanket . It can really upset some people, they find it well unpleasant and its nothing to do with them being perverts or victorian . These days protesting prisoners actually use nudity as a psychological weapon against the screws as they know it fucks with their heads , and the screws know they know. And so they get punished for it . So its not all about silly hang ups, its about actually upsetting people .

Doesnt upset you , thats ok . Thats your business . But your business isnt everyone elses . And like I said if you think female work colleagues are simply being Victorian prudes if they got offended at you walking up to them naked at work, that they should have no right to complain or be offended....thats seriously individualistic and unrealistic .

Which is what this guys problem really is . I honestly dont want to see him come to harm and Im well aware how mentally destructive prison can be . I hope he gets the help he needs because plainly hes lost the plot at some stage . But at the same time if theres a precedent set with him then anyone could at any time appear naked in front of anyone they wanted and thats simply not on . The rest of us have rights and sensibilities that should be respected .
 
You sound like my art teacher at school. :(

I too never quite learned that teachers were not impressed by cock and ball pictures... A searing inditement on the backwards repressive nature of our education system? Or my own arrogant stupidity?

:hmm:
 
Using an ASBO to imprison people for something which is not a crime (except for the breaching of the ASBO) is becoming more and more commonplace and seems to be being accepted by some members of this board.

Also:


Both of these statements imply clothing and exposing oneself. Being naked is not 'whipping out your dick' it is actually a natural state of being.

sophistry. I'm not whipping it out cos it was already out. Take that m'lud.
 
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