the long-awaited 'why the telegraph is going downhill' thread

[danny la rouge]

I thought it hinged on people who had opted in for editorial communication getting what was judged to be marketing communication?

"Direct marketing includes promoting particular views or campaigns such as those of a particular party".

 

[Maurice Picarda]

"Direct marketing includes promoting particular views or campaigns such as those of a particular party".

Yes, and that's nonsense. Newspapers have been promoting particular views since presses were powered by steam. And that's what recipients of editorial emails have signed up for. There is a legitimate grievance if you sign up for an editorial newsletter and then are spammed for digital subs or newspaper wine clubs, or if third party advertisers then target you. But a political endorsement counts quite reasonably as commentary. Shit ruling.

 

[danny la rouge]

Yes, and that's nonsense. Newspapers have been promoting particular views since presses were powered by steam. And that's what recipients of editorial emails have signed up for. There is a legitimate grievance if you sign up for an editorial newsletter and then are spammed for digital subs or newspaper wine clubs, or if third party advertisers then target you. But a political endorsement counts quite reasonably as commentary. Shit ruling.

It depends on the form the email took, surely?

 

[Maurice Picarda]

It depends on the form the email took, surely?

The newspaper paradox – talking more loudly, but to fewer people | Conservative Home

Here you go. Reads like a leader, sent out as an email.

 

[danny la rouge]

The newspaper paradox – talking more loudly, but to fewer people | Conservative Home

Here you go. Reads like a leader, sent out as an email.

 

[Maurice Picarda]

Yes, I read the judgement, and I disagree with it. Partly the Torygraph's fault for calling the email an unprecedented step, I suppose.

 

[stavros]

I went back to my parents at Christmas and so got my annual chance to skim over the Telegraph six days a week. Much the same shit as always, but I do remember a Fraser Nelson op-ed article seemingly attributing the large decrease of malaria in Africa purely to capitalism.

 

[Greasy Boiler]

Ah yes, continuing the long tradition of looking at the selfless labour of hundreds of thousands (not an exaggeration) towards helping their fellow man and saying, you know what? unbridled selfishness achieved that.


Fuuuuuuuuck off.

 

[bi0boy]

 

[stavros]

Its tabloid equivalent the Mail is none too impressed, but the Telegraph's headline is more praising of our esteemed leaders on his continental travails:

Cameron wins deal to block EU laws

Are the Telegraph not totally anti-Europe?

 

[Pickman's model]

 

[gawkrodger]

was looking for this thread yesterday

Islamic State and the Easter Rising

 

[ska invita]

new website oh dear...pure tabloid direction
its days are numbered i tell ya

this is classic telegraph though Tax avoidance is an expression of basic British freedoms

 

[stavros]

this is classic telegraph though Tax avoidance is an expression of basic British freedoms

Meanwhile, on the island of Brecqhou, the defence begins;

 

[stethoscope]

this is classic telegraph though Tax avoidance is an expression of basic British freedoms

For anybody that doesn't know, John McTernan (the author of that piece) was a former Labour Party adviser during Blair/Brown years.

 

[ska invita]

For anybody that doesn't know, John McTernan (the author of that piece) was a former Labour Party adviser during Blair/Brown years.

classic

 

[hot air baboon]

...see they've closed comments on articles after similar by the Grauniad - although this is across all article - ( back In February apparently - ( only just noticed ) )

Telegraph Bloodbath: New Jobs Cull Underway

 

[ska invita]

This is pretty jaw dropping
Is Tony Blair responsible for all Iraq's bloodshed? The truth is more complicated, and less comforting
"Believing that Iraq’s tragedy must be the West’s fault is strangely comforting, for it offers us the illusion of power."

 

[Fez909]

Helen Skelton's revealing skirt sends BBC's Olympic Games Rio 2016 viewers into meltdown

Twitter comments on a woman wearing a short skirt is the most read story on the Telegraph right now...

 

[Pickman's model]

Major General Denis Beckett – obituary

 

[gosub]

Spoiler: Health warning: avoid if suffering from high blood pressure

Tony Blair should come back. British politics needs him, now more than ever

 

[Pickman's model]

View attachment 92282
Major General Denis Beckett – obituary

Surprised no one spotted yer man apparently director of personal services (army) rather than the more likely director of personnel services.

 

[teqniq]

Spoiler: Health warning: avoid if suffering from high blood pressure

Tony Blair should come back. British politics needs him, now more than ever

This may be of a piece with this, possibly an effort to rehabilitate himself:
Tony Blair announces he is closing down his business empire

 

[voiceofreason88]

ive never read the telegraph but its supposed to be a conservative paper isnt it? i saw someone on the news the otherday who worked for the telegraph and i wouldnt say what he said was a conservative view. more of a leftwing i thought. maybe thats the reason its going downhill. out of touch with there demographic.

 

[nino_savatte]

ive never read the telegraph

Liar.

 

[stavros]

ive never read the telegraph but its supposed to be a conservative paper isnt it?

If it is it's very subtle.

 

[stavros]

From today's front page;

Royals on Tour

What will Kate make of Canada’s controversial First Lady?

"Huh, she's only famous because of who she's slept with!"

 

[Pickman's model]

From today's front page;



"Huh, she's only famous because of who she's slept with!"

not to mention that canada's first lady is er the queen of canada who happens to be queen elizabeth i (of canada) and elizabeth ii of the uk: a fact unnoticed by the supposedly royalist telegraph.

 

[Pickman's model]

 

[Rob Ray]

Heffer of course is better known (before actually writing in a real printed newspaper that Enoch was right) for his assertion in 2012 that Liverpudlians had a "victim complex" about Hillsborough and it was mostly the fault of drunken fans.