existentialist
Tired and unemotional
I'm rewatching Season 1 and being appalled at how much of the sense of it I missed first time around 
"The Expanse" - New near-future sci-fi TV
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NoXion
Craicy the Squirrel
I was Googling for Expanse reviews when I came across this pile of hot garbage from, where else, the fucking Guardian:
Apparently the reviewer thinks most viewers are idiots who can't grasp stories in which characters and factions are more shades of grey than black and white.
I haven't really seen much of the new Battlestar Galactica series, so I can't judge the comparison. Which is another reason why this review is shit.
Apparently the reviewer thinks most viewers are idiots who can't grasp stories in which characters and factions are more shades of grey than black and white.
I haven't really seen much of the new Battlestar Galactica series, so I can't judge the comparison. Which is another reason why this review is shit.
J Ed
Follow Back Pro Expropriation
Laurie Penny gave it a 'this is a thick programme for proles but I like it in a trashy ironic way' review as well.
IMO Expanse is some of the best Sci-Fi out there, on a par with Firefly and it has only gotten better and better with the last few episodes.
NoXion
Craicy the Squirrel
Is this it? Because holy shit that is a terrible review.
Problematic yet not worth mentioning in any detail whatsoever? That's either lazy review writing or disingenuous bullshit.
BigTom
Well-Known Member
I agree
he hasn't mentioned his punctured lung to anyone. I feel like he is sacrificing himself to save Drummer (? I can't remember if that's her name), but maybe he'll go and get healed as well.
I think he was always genuinely nation building, but had previously been manoeuvring for captain, maybe he knows he can't survive the punctured lung or maybe she showed him something else in that exchange, idk.
Also, one of the few episodes where amos didn't have the best line. Drummer saying something like "if this going to be one of your life lessons, i rather bleed out in silence"
I think he was always genuinely nation building, but had previously been manoeuvring for captain, maybe he knows he can't survive the punctured lung or maybe she showed him something else in that exchange, idk.
Also, one of the few episodes where amos didn't have the best line. Drummer saying something like "if this going to be one of your life lessons, i rather bleed out in silence"
Chz
Stark Raving Sane
To be fair to someone who has to review it on a schedule, The Expanse starts out really slow and struggles to find its way for at least half of the first series. Battlestar starts with a BANG, ramps it up from there (33 is one of the best episodes of anything, anywhere), and only cools off towards the end of series one.
DotCommunist
So many particulars. So many questions.
BSG hit the plotting-on-the-fly wall and ended up solving it with ambiguity and god (I can live with that, in my world your show gets cancelled/the writer dies anyway. Lucky to get an ending, nevar forget deadwood.)
When it was good though, it was very very good
When it was good though, it was very very good
existentialist
Tired and unemotional
S03E12, here I come... 
NoXion
Craicy the Squirrel
S03E12, here I come...
The last two episodes are a double feature. You're in for a treat.
Heads up, some scenes are out of order in some versions on the free streaming websites. It confused the fuck out of me, and rather dampened my enjoyment when I realised what happened.
It's an excuse to find a non-fucked version and watch it again, though.
DotCommunist
So many particulars. So many questions.
Banging. If it had been done there, i could have lived with it, it was tidy and a decent full stop. Bit the cashlord of amazonia has saved it anyway. Next year then. What we got in the meantime. Game of thrones. That's ages away
donkyboy
Crazy Cat/Fox man
better call saul will be back in august
PursuedByBears
Go stick your head in a pig
That was great. Roll on S4.
That took us up to the end of Abbadon's Gate - the TV season usually stops mid-book - so S4 should start at the beginning of Cibola Burn, which is one of my favourite books in the series so far 
BigTom
Well-Known Member
been away so only just watched the last double episode last night, fucking brilliant. Amos again had the best line though I have forgotten exactly what he said (it was to Alex I think).
When they were talking about blowing up the ring I speculated that they might do that, and then open up the portals and the rest of the series would be them trying to get back to earth from wherever the ring portal took them - having a generation ship in the mix just seemed like it was setting up for something like that. Not that I'm unhappy with the setup, oh no, that's brilliant, the blood soaked gold rush begins! Still a nice idea for a story if kind of derivative of BSG
SpookyFrank
A cheap source of teeth for aquarium gravel
He was doing what he thought was right again though. Maybe he was influenced by anger but still he was playing sacrifice, not glory. The Martian captain told him nobody would ever know what he'd done and he wasn't bothered about that at all.
It's been a feature of the show throughout that there are few unambiguous bad guys. Not even Mao and the doctor bloke were totally irredeemable. The one thing that pissed me off about the finale was Anna playing the Voice of Reason, when we all know the true voice of reason is Amos:
'Why do you have a gun?'
'The armoury was on the way...'
NoXion
Craicy the Squirrel
Surely Naomi or Alex could have done so before they left? After all, what's the point in leaving the reactor ticking over if there's nobody on board to benefit?
rekil
to menny cranks
Nah that was Ashford. Best line in any show from the last 10 years that isn't Always Sunny probably.
existentialist
Tired and unemotional
I think the way Amos has been characterised has been excellently nuanced. Given his back story and character, he could just have been another loony hairtrigger psychopath, but I love the way they've dovetailed the brutally unconstrained aspect of his character with a childlike need for guidance - vide his relationship with Naomi, and now with Anna. I'm a massive Amos fan, while at the same time recoiling in slight horror at his willingness to resort to extreme violence to achieve "the mission".
ETA: I think I also might be very slightly in love with Drummer
ETA: I think I also might be very slightly in love with Drummer
SpookyFrank
A cheap source of teeth for aquarium gravel
Nah that was Ashford. Best line in any show from the last 10 years that isn't Always Sunny probably.
What was the context of that?
Crispy
The following psytrance is baṉned: All
The actor was already a fan of the books and deliberately auditioned for the role. He totally gets it. Fundamentally damaged, but self aware about it.
I hope we get more Avasarala in S4. Obviously the sec gen wouldn't be flying out to Uranus for the Ring episodes, but maybe there'll be more for her to do one the "gold rush" is underway...
DotCommunist
So many particulars. So many questions.
She was in the montagey bit, that means a plotline involves her
BigTom
Well-Known Member
It was when the scientist guy on the UNN ship was telling him something about protons or something - I think before he convinced the OPA dude to launch the nuclear sciff but possibly before he got them to try the comms laser, I think the next line was "just tell me what you need" which is also a great line.
I think Amos is at the same time the most straightforward and most complicated character of the core characters. Really brilliant character and actor.
rekil
to menny cranks
This scene. Masterful writing and the exasperated singsong delivery of the line is perfect.
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