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The Dominic Cummings file

killer b said:
what, that Cummings has the dirt on Johnson and that's why he's being looked after? everywhere. Multiple posts on this thread, the whole of twitter and facebook for the last 5 days...
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I don't think it's that far fetched to assume that Cummings has been witness to (and almost certainly party to) behaviour by Government ministers that they would not want to be made public knowledge.

The idea that he's sat in front of Johnson and outright suggested he'll stitch them up if he's not looked after is less convincing, agreed.
 
I know this has been covered multiple times already including if I remember correctly the original tweets from the author of this piece, but I wanted to quote a bit of it.

www.bbc.co.uk

Coronavirus: Why did Dominic Cummings say he predicted it?

Dominic Cummings's 2019 blog mentioned coronavirus, but only after it was edited in April 2020.
www.bbc.co.uk

It is difficult to see why editing a year-old personal blog would have been on any list of priorities for any No 10 official on a day like that - in the middle of the period where hospital deaths had peaked the previous week, but care home deaths were still mounting.

But Mr Cummings clearly felt the need on Monday to point to examples of prescience on this specific issue.

The context of his quote on coronavirus was to help disprove the allegation, first made in the Sunday Times, that he had backed a so-called "herd immunity" strategy.

I've asked No 10 for a response on the change to his blog, the reference to Chinese biolabs, and whether he stands by the idea he explicitly wrote about the dangers of coronaviruses.

A source acknowledged that the blog was updated and pointed to the fact that the original blog from last year linked to the separate article [in the Bulletin of Atomic Scientists] which did discuss coronaviruses.
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The Octagon said:
I don't think it's that far fetched to assume that Cummings has been witness to (and almost certainly party to) behaviour by Government ministers that they would not want to be made public knowledge.

The idea that he's sat in front of Johnson and outright suggested he'll stitch them up if he's not looked after is less convincing, agreed.
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that's true of literally every significant political advisor ever though, and the vast majority of insignificant ones.
 
Roadkill said:
His wife is a care worker, so he was saying on Twitter when he posted this, and he's furious about what she's had to go through. Tbh I don't get past finding a lot of his stuff mildly amusing, but that one's so very sad.
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Yes, powerful and sad.

It makes one of the more powerful points about the context of the whole cummings event; had they actually been anywhere near effective at stopping mass deaths some folk might have been more forgiving had the cunt apologised.
 
two sheds said:
Not needed - if they fall out it's likely all to come out with no talk of blackmail.
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What else could come out. Everyone knows what Johnson's like. A few more allegations of affairs, misusing public finances, flagrant provable bullshitting trying to get journalists beatn up... Those who don't care, still won't.care.
 
The Octagon said:
I don't think it's that far fetched to assume that Cummings has been witness to (and almost certainly party to) behaviour by Government ministers that they would not want to be made public knowledge.
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Absolutely he has. But Johnson and Gove, especially, have probably connived in him breaking the law too, which along with his influence over government strategy is what makes him different from most other special advisors. It's not so much a matter of him having dirt on them as all of them being in it together. I still think that the saying 'hang together or we'll hang separately' explains some of what's happened in the last few days and weeks.
 
killer b said:
These cunts know better than to fall out like that. That's why Gove's knifing of Johnson in 2016 was so shocking - they don't do it like that.
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Possibly. If Johnson turned on Cummings and accused him of lying to him to save his own job, though...

After Cummings got the buffoon his Brexit and Prime Ministership and after he'd done nothing wrong and was only looking after his son and testing his eyesight and had just been thrown to the media dogs. I doubt Cummings could keep his mouth shut in private conversations which would inevitably become public, and I wouldn't be surprised if he secretly despises Johnson. No need for blackmail.
 
I mean like Trump. People think if you expose more of their bullshit, their support will drift away. Total miscalculation. The fenatics revil in it.
 
xenon said:
What else could come out. Everyone knows what Johnson's like. A few more allegations of affairs, misusing public finances, flagrant provable bullshitting trying to get journalists beatn up... Those who don't care, still won't.care.
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Continuous quotes showing up what a buffoon Johnson is. Other people won't care, I'm sure Johnson would. Again, though, I'm not saying he's threatening Johnson. Like Roadkill said there's a lot of "hang together or we'll hang separately"
 
xenon said:
Well we'll se in 4 years I guess. Probably a few crisis between now and then though.
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Of course, at this stage of the electoral cycle it would be foolish to assume anything. That said, the Covid year (?) is not something that anyone will forget; rather exceptionally everyone is involved in this 'political story' and has experienced some sacrifice/loss. And, although it's a massive over-simplification, there will be many in the vermin's core demographic for whom a British identity trait of 'fair-play' is strongly believed.
I really think this has the potential to be very damaging.
 
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two sheds said:
The gift that keeps giving :D

www.independent.co.uk

‘No formal review to take place’ on refunds for those caught doing what Cummings did

Matt Hancock promises to go over fines with Treasury in latest contortion to defend top aide
www.independent.co.uk www.independent.co.uk
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I think they've already corrected Hancock's press briefing brain-fart and said that won't happen. You can see why; imagine having to defend the prosecutions when the Prime Minister had previously described the very offence committed as behaving “responsibly, legally and with integrity”
 
ska invita said:
The Police's record on investigating top Tory brass is about as good as their investigations into themselves.
I live in hope though....wouldn't take much of a new revelation to do for him
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That’s not through lack of trying anymore. The last three showers in number 10 have managed what was the quite impressive achievement of getting both the old bill corporately and the majority of individual rozzers to dislike the Tories almost as much as they do most other people. In terms of losing your dressing room it was a fantastic effort that took real skills and perseverance.
 
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kenny g said:
Being a SPAD is a public office.
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You sure?

your link said:
The courts have been reluctant to provide a detailed definition of a public officer. The case law contains an element of circularity, in that the cases tend to define a public officer as a person who carries out a public duty or has an office of trust. What may constitute a public duty or an office of trust must therefore be inferred from the facts of particular cases.
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A lot of the "Cummings must have dirt on Johnson" hang on the assumption that otherwise Boris would sack him.

Why?

He's got a rock solid majority.

An election is years away.

He's as untouchable as it gets.

He has no need to sack him.

In fact, whilst in normal times this kind of spectacle would be a damaging distraction, this (whilst damaging) is a useful distraction nonetheless.

...and as people start to ignore government regulations, they get the herd immunity strategy they wanted all along.
 
Its going to based on the ongoing public reaction

they currently deep into spinning it until it goes away


even on most social media highlight other politicians who have broken lock down

which is odd as Cummings has not been elected


would be interesting to see the contract of a special aid
and how the rules they have been bending
 
Ax^ said:
Its going to based on the ongoing public reaction

they....currently deep into spinning it until it goes away
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Not spinning though... ignoring, yup, brazenness and bare-faced affrontery.

On the wave of 10 years of electoral victory and non-existent opposition it encourages them to show more of their nature (just like in Scotland, but opposite).
 
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