Okay, so billions of pounds siphoned off to the Tories' mates is fine by you. That's all we needed to know.
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Okay, so billions of pounds siphoned off to the Tories' mates is fine by you. That's all we needed to know.
teuchter
je suis teuchter
Billions of pounds? Where is this enumerated? Somewhere other than that NAO report?
MickiQ
In My Defence I was left Unsupervised
Well no it isn't the VAT, tariffs and fees will be paid to the tax authorities in the EU not the UK.
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
do you think they added a few extra zeroes by mistake?
MickiQ
In My Defence I was left Unsupervised
I don't think he does, for all his bulllshit there isn't much to be done to actually level up without unacceptable (to the Tories) levels of public investment. I think a lot of the Labour seats that went Tory at the last election were a one off due to Brexit and will return a Labour MP again in 2024.
I expect the Tories to win again in 2024 but with nothing like the majority they got this time.
teuchter
je suis teuchter
Who's "they"?
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
teuchter
je suis teuchter
Because the NAO have not said what you are pretending they have said.
Various journalists and others have been onto this for a while, some looking at individual contracts (e.g. here and here) and others at procurement as a whole (e.g. here). We don't know the full dimensions of the problem, not least because some of the documentation has not even been published, but there's ample evidence both of irregularities in awarding and policing individual contracts, and of a wider disregard for the normal processes of public procurement.
But, as I said, you know this already.
Gramsci
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Heard this in radio this evening. Lords are asking about what took place between Government and EU over ability of musicians to go to EU.
Independent article suggests that UK could not come to a deal over 90 days due to Priti Patel crackdown on immigration.
Government argue that they were trying to get deal for all business trips not just musicians.
EU deny that they would not have done a deal about musicians touring. They have a standard deal which for example USA have with EU.
Sounds like this governments obsession with ending anything that smacks of freedom of movement is the problem.
www.independent.co.uk
Independent article suggests that UK could not come to a deal over 90 days due to Priti Patel crackdown on immigration.
Government argue that they were trying to get deal for all business trips not just musicians.
EU deny that they would not have done a deal about musicians touring. They have a standard deal which for example USA have with EU.
Sounds like this governments obsession with ending anything that smacks of freedom of movement is the problem.
UK ‘rejected offer’ of visa-free tours by musicians in EU, despite blaming Brussels for permit blow
Exclusive: ‘Standard’ proposal to exempt performers for 90 days was proposed, but ‘the UK said no’
www.independent.co.uk
teuchter
je suis teuchter
Yes, I know journalists have been 'looking at it' and I completely believe that there will have been all kinds of screw ups. But I keep seeing mention of this kind of thing like "billions of pounds handed to ministers" mates" mentioned without question. And the fact is that nothing like that has been enumerated. It's all lazy commentary, just like conflating emergency procurement processes with privatisation.
two sheds
Least noticed poster 2007
Establishment networking, sleaze and corruption. A handy compendium. £276 million there for one contract
www.urban75.net
That post gives another £452 million for two contracts - so £728 million for three conservative-linked contracts, billions sounds fairly likely, particularly if they've not published details of £4.4 billion.
That's just a couple of minutes search - worth looking through that thread for confirmation. And I only searched "billions", searching "millions" should bring up a lot more.
Establishment networking, sleaze and corruption. A handy compendium.
More revelations regarding Kate Bingham https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1325180546675322880.html
www.urban75.net
That post gives another £452 million for two contracts - so £728 million for three conservative-linked contracts, billions sounds fairly likely, particularly if they've not published details of £4.4 billion.
That's just a couple of minutes search - worth looking through that thread for confirmation. And I only searched "billions", searching "millions" should bring up a lot more.
sleaterkinney
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two sheds
Least noticed poster 2007
Dutch officials seize ham sandwiches of drivers arriving from UK
Personal imports of meat and dairy products into EU banned since Brexit transition ended
Leave our ham sandwiches alone you EU bastards
Impressed they show a picture of ham sandwiches though just in case people don't know what they look like 
teuchter
je suis teuchter
I'm glad the good law project is pursuing this stuff, and of course the govt should be transparent in where money is going, and they should be made to make that missing info public, and maybe there is info yet to come out. But I see no evidence of corruption on the scale of billions. The NAO report seems to accept the principle that known contacts were given some priority in bidding and of course that will then be seen in the fact that some of these companies have pre existing connections with people in government. The question then is whether they were then allowed to get away with charging extortionate sums as a result. In other words, did the govt pay well over the odds to these companies, compared to what would have been paid to companies with no connections. My reading of the NAO summary is that no, they did not find evidence of this.Establishment networking, sleaze and corruption. A handy compendium. £276 million there for one contract
Establishment networking, sleaze and corruption. A handy compendium.
More revelations regarding Kate Bingham https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1325180546675322880.html
That post gives another £452 million for two contracts - so £728 million for three conservative-linked contracts, billions sounds fairly likely, particularly if they've not published details of £4.4 billion.
That's just a couple of minutes search - worth looking through that thread for confirmation. And I only searched "billions", searching "millions" should bring up a lot more.
two sheds
Least noticed poster 2007
Post 3 in that thread:
Establishment networking, sleaze and corruption. A handy compendium.
I thought it might be an idea to have a thread where people could post links and their thoughts on those who consider themselves our rightful betters and rulers. I think it may be useful to have it all 'under one roof'. Predictably perhaps it will most likely but not soley focus on the vermin...
www.urban75.net
and the thread is stuffed full of them. Count it up. Billions isn't an exaggeration, but of course we can't know the exact amounts because they won't tell us.
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
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brogdale
Coming to terms with late onset Anarchism
The clip looks a bit like a comedy sketch...Dutch officials seize ham sandwiches of drivers arriving from UK
Personal imports of meat and dairy products into EU banned since Brexit transition endedwww.theguardian.com
Leave our ham sandwiches alone you EU bastards
teuchter
je suis teuchter
Post 3 covers stuff that is discussed in the NAO report (I assume published subsequently) that I was pointed to earlier.Post 3 in that thread:
Establishment networking, sleaze and corruption. A handy compendium.
I thought it might be an idea to have a thread where people could post links and their thoughts on those who consider themselves our rightful betters and rulers. I think it may be useful to have it all 'under one roof'. Predictably perhaps it will most likely but not soley focus on the vermin...
and the thread is stuffed full of them. Count it up. Billions isn't an exaggeration, but of course we can't know the exact amounts because they won't tell us.
Bahnhof Strasse
Met up with Hannah Courtoy a week next Tuesday
Strange for a country that lets hundreds of tons of coke and smack pass through its ports every year, that a ham sandwich is their line in the sand.
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
If you'd ever tried to snort a line in the sand you'd know why it's the sort of thing you don't let pass
Bahnhof Strasse
Met up with Hannah Courtoy a week next Tuesday
Snorted K off a crumbly brick in a warehouse in Bergen op Zoom, would rather have hoovered up a ham sandwich tbf.
That I did not know. Talk about scraping the barrel.
I did actually argue directly against that last point, if you remember. But keep trying. Some day I might bite...
gosub
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Foot and Mouth, UK has been foot and mouth free for several years. Still, glad to see they are on top of their game, you would not believe the havoc some of these highly contagious viruses can cause
Raheem
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It's not about preventing foot and mouth. It's ham.
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