The 2023 Russian Coup.

[spitfire]

Who's tyre guy? Trent Telenko?

Yeah.

 

[cupid_stunt]

Who's tyre guy?

 

[Bahnhof Strasse]

Right, back from a long weekend sunning myself in Santa Monica, did I miss anything? A short précis would be handy before I succumb to the jet lag…ta.

 

[maomao]

Yeah.

He was one of those nutters that recon wegbshoukd just go nuclear because 90% of Russian nukes probably don't work. I'd rather not a) have 10% of Russian nukes used and shown to be working or b) wipe out Russia and most Russians in the process.

 

[spitfire]

He was one of those nutters that recon wegbshoukd just go nuclear because 99% of Russian nukes probably don't work. I'd rather not a) have 10% of Russian nukes used and shown to be working or b) wipe out Russia and most Russians in the process.

Yea, I agree, 10% is enough to spoil everyone's day and I don't want Russia turned into a glass carpark either.

 

[Bingoman]

Wagner boss Prigoghin has just released a 11 minute audio and says he did not signed any agreement and started a March because of injustice?

Sky say they are getting translated as we speak to what else he has said

 

[planetgeli]

Right, back from a long weekend sunning myself in Santa Monica, did I miss anything? A short précis would be handy before I succumb to the jet lag…ta.

Shittest. Coup. Evah.

 

[bimble]

Long but helpful rumination on it all by Timothy Snyder (good writer imo)

Prigozhin's March on Moscow (corrected)

Ten lessons from a mutiny

snyder.substack.com

 

[SpookyFrank]

Right, back from a long weekend sunning myself in Santa Monica, did I miss anything? A short précis would be handy before I succumb to the jet lag…ta.

Large army marches on Moscow then retreats in disarray, its leader now a spent force and likely a dead man walking.

Not entirely unprecedented tbh.

 

[SpookyFrank]

Shittest. Coup. Evah.

I dunno that Turkish one (2018?) was pretty disappointing.

 

[RedRedRose]

Not entirely unprecedented tbh.

Quite a few examples of abortive coups in Russian history: the Decemberists, 1905 Revolution, the Kornilov affair, the 1991 August Coup etc. etc.

 

[SpookyFrank]

Quite a few examples of abortive coups in Russian history: the Decemberists, 1905 Revolution, the Kornilov affair, the 1991 August Coup etc. etc.

Also Kronstadt. Maybe that doesn't count as a coup though.

 

[Dystopiary]

[..........]

Happily not so deep that I could recognise the others mentioned but caution has to be exercised, as Canadian Volunteer and Ripleys Heroes demonstrated in particular. And that Jamie Vasquez character, weird goings on there.

[...........]

I remember when Louise Mensch just would not have it that Canadian Volunteer was fake. I normally ignore her but she spent days popping up all over twitter trying to fight his corner!

 

[Riklet]

It wasn't a coup that's why it was the shittest coup ever.

 

[planetgeli]

It wasn't a coup that's why it was the shittest coup ever.

Again, I apologize, my Russian is terrible.

Shittest. March for Justice. Evah.

 

[cupid_stunt]

Anyone know how many Wagner soldiers and equipment are going to Belarus with their boss?

Lots of conspiracy theorist on twitter are saying that Wagner is now 100k from Kiev.

I know certain posters took the piss out of this post, but a former Chief of the General Staff was interviewed yesterday on Sky, and he floated the idea that this could be a possibility, as a distraction for the Ukrainians, and they need to keep an eye on this possibility.

Sky is now saying there are reports that camps are being set-up for Wagner troops in Belarus, although they have not verified them yet.

At the end of the day, anything is possible in all this madness, never rule anything out.

 

[bimble]

So in his speech today prog says his intention all along was to stop his private army from being disbanded, and says it like he’s victoriously achieved that, when Russian news says exactly the opposite? Shambles all round.

 

[JimW]

If Putin can have a war that's not a war, seems only fair his underlings can attempt coups that are jaunts up the motorway.

 

[planetgeli]

"I can tell you when we drove up that motorway to Moscow I had every intention of ending up in Belarus. My Aunt lives there."

 

[spitfire]

Yes there are a lot of grifters and bullshit artists around. As this graphic amusingly shows.

Definitely guilty of falling for tyre guy at the beginning, turned out he is a right wing Trumpette, the tyre thing may have been a stopped clock moment, or total nonsense, anyone know either way? Igor Sushko, (race car guy) is an absolute fantasist, as became rapidly clear early on. He's still tweeting absolute bollox and Malcolm Nance appears to be really rather naively retweeting him regularly, Nance is an odd one as well but I'm not going to accuse him of anything from my armchair/sofa. He definitely seems to care a lot.

Happily not so deep that I could recognise the others mentioned but caution has to be exercised, as Canadian Volunteer and Ripleys Heroes demonstrated in particular. And that Jamie Vasquez character, weird goings on there.




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Spoiler: tweet

Fuck, I just Candymanned Vasquez. He’s back for some more twitter drama.

Sorry everyone.

 

[Yossarian]

Fuck, I just Candymanned Vasquez. He’s back for some more twitter drama.

Sorry everyone.

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Liked for the verbing of Candyman, not the resurfacing of Vasquez

 

[LDC]

So not a coup, a protest along a road. Very 2023. Just Stop Oil with guns and an angrier boss.

 

[JimW]

Coup blimey.

 

[MysteryGuest]

Coup's sorry now

 

[Cid]

Looks like they're effectively transferring a substantial chunk of Wagner to Belarus. Though probably still file under 'unconfirmed':

Belarus reportedly begins building camps for Wagner Group fighters — Meduza

Independent Russian publication Verstka reports that Belarus has started building camps for Wagner Group fighters. The camps will be located in the Mogilev region of Belarus, approximately 200 kilometers (124 miles) from the border with Ukraine, and will be able to accommodate 8,000 fighters.

meduza.io

Fucking shit outcome if true tbh.

 

[spitfire]

Looks like they're effectively transferring a substantial chunk of Wagner to Belarus. Though probably still file under 'unconfirmed':

Belarus reportedly begins building camps for Wagner Group fighters — Meduza

Independent Russian publication Verstka reports that Belarus has started building camps for Wagner Group fighters. The camps will be located in the Mogilev region of Belarus, approximately 200 kilometers (124 miles) from the border with Ukraine, and will be able to accommodate 8,000 fighters.

meduza.io

Fucking shit outcome if true tbh.

Kick them into the long coup de grass.

 

[Idris2002]

Front page of Irish Times is "Mystery Surrounds whereabouts of Wagner boss".

Said boss is quoted as saying "yeah baby, do I turn you on baby, oh behave"

 

[Cid]

Kick them into the long coup de grass.

Much as I appreciate the humour, the last thing Belarusians need at the moment is 8000 disaffected mercenaries.

It's more than I could coup with.

 

[two sheds]

Will it become known as the Chicken Coup?

 

[maomao]

I know certain posters took the piss out of this post, but a former Chief of the General Staff was interviewed yesterday on Sky, and he floated the idea that this could be a possibility, as a distraction for the Ukrainians, and they need to keep an eye on this possibility.

Sky is now saying there are reports that camps are being set-up for Wagner troops in Belarus, although they have not verified them yet.

At the end of the day, anything is possible in all this madness, never rule anything out.

If that comes true, I called it on the thread within half an hour of the news Prigozhin was off to Belarus:

An excuse to get on the road to Kyiv?