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Thatcher is dead

Stoat Boy said:
Why is it amazing ? It was an incredible achievement for a woman, especially in those days. Personally I think that the level vitriol aimed at her from the left is in part down to this fact because it strikes me that really, when push comes to shove, the British left prefer their women barefooted, pregnant and in the kitchen. Or very posh. Like Harman.
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In spite of being a woman, she did nothing for women. She didn't even have any women around her cabinet table. Fuck her and her poisonous memory.
 
There is a massive eulogy for Thatcher in the Sheffield Star, ffs, the city of steel and the nearby pits, we are living in very strange times...

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marshall said:
Is it me, or is this quite a muted response from Urban? A few years back these boards would have experienced meltdown.
All a bit 'meh', I guess.
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Hard to be all chipper when the spawn of her and Reagan still run politics across the western world.
 
Stoat Boy said:
It was an incredible achievement for a woman, especially in those days. Personally I think that the level vitriol aimed at her from the left is in part down to this fact because it strikes me that really, when push comes to shove, the British left prefer their women barefooted, pregnant and in the kitchen. Or very posh. Like Harman.
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It's a meaningless point you're making - Thatcher's team the group that actually won the leadership contest was all male and hard-right led by Airey Neave - Thatcher was the softest (as soft as possible) in appearance figure within the Conservative right.
Neave famously won the contest for her by wheeler-dealing and promising lots of people in he first round that if they would only vote for her against heath, she would stand down when willy whitelaw came into the picture for the second round.

Thatcher after 1979 proceeded to ruin and destroy working class women's lives from the 1979 budget cuts through the 1982 immigration act all the way to the poll tax. An achievement for a woman, does not - contrary to your 'glorify great leaders' aims hidden behind the hypocritical 'all human life is sacred and pure' line - achieve much for women as a whole.

Next, we shall praise Elena Ceacescu's important and serious role as deputy Prime Minister of Romania - a historic breathtaking first, and something that's not happened since.
 
sihhi said:
It's a meaningless point you're making - Thatcher's team the group that actually won the leadership contest was all male and hard-right led by Airey Neave - Thatcher was the softest (as soft as possible) in appearance figure within the Conservative right.
Neave famously won the contest for her by wheeler-dealing and promising lots of people in he first round that if they would only vote for her against heath, she would stand down when willy whitelaw came into the picture for the second round.

Thatcher after 1979 proceeded to ruin and destroy working class women's lives from the 1979 budget cuts through the 1982 immigration act all the way to the poll tax. An achievement for a woman, does not - contrary to your 'glorify great leaders' aims hidden behind the hypocritical 'all human life is sacred and pure' line - achieve much for women as a whole.

Next, we shall praise Elena Ceacescu's important and serious role as deputy Prime Minister of Romania - a historic breathtaking first, and something that's not happened since.
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what about Sirimavo Bandaranaike, the world's first female head of govt according to google?
 
Shucks VP and WoW. Can't believe you remember me. I hadn't been round these parts for ages but thought I'd pop on today and see how you're all doing in light of the glorious news. Crank it up! :D (lost my cd in house moves but have a spotify approximation on loud...)
 
Her damage is well and truly done and embedded, with her ideological descendants in full control. Things will be worse tomorrow than they are today. They won. We lost. And now we're on the floor, they're putting the boot in. Can't get excited over the death of a figurehead, personally.
 
Stoat Boy said:
Why is it amazing ? It was an incredible achievement for a woman, especially in those days. Personally I think that the level vitriol aimed at her from the left is in part down to this fact because it strikes me that really, when push comes to shove, the British left prefer their women barefooted, pregnant and in the kitchen. Or very posh. Like Harman.
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I don't think the loathing of Thatcher is because she was a woman, and, frankly, I doubt that you do either.

But I'll acknowledge that, having made herself a target of such loathing, it was probably inevitable that her gender would be used as part of its expression.
 
Helga said:
Shucks VP and WoW. Can't believe you remember me. I hadn't been round these parts for ages but thought I'd pop on today and see how you're all doing in light of the glorious news. Crank it up! :D (lost my cd in house moves but have a spotify approximation on loud...)
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That's why I'm here as well, after years and years!
 
Apols if pearoast, but I've been out for half an hour and can't be arsed to go through the ensuing 167 pages..but old Boney seems quite chuffed...
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Daily Mail already outraged

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'Tramp the dirt down': George Galloway's extraordinarily crass tweet leads the Left’s sickening 'celebration' just minutes after Baroness Thatcher’s death

  • Response was met with disgust by users on Twitter
  • Facebook campaign to take 'Ding Dong! The Witch is Dead' to number one
  • Stop The War Coalition: 'She should also be remembered as a warmonger'
  • GMB union: 'Her legacy involves the destruction of communities'
  • Durham Miners' Association: Death was a 'great day' for coal miners
  • Second most trending topic: #nostatefuneral
 
Pickman's model said:
what about Sirimavo Bandaranaike, the world's first female head of govt according to google?
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I was talking within Romania, given that the claim is Thatcher was Britain's first leader, not the first woman leader the world had ever seen - Mrs Bandaranaike, Indira Gandhi, Golda Meir and may be others?? preceeded her.
 
T & P said:
Daily Mail already outraged

(summary below for those not wishing to click on)

'Tramp the dirt down': George Galloway's extraordinarily crass tweet leads the Left’s sickening 'celebration' just minutes after Baroness Thatcher’s death

  • Response was met with disgust by users on Twitter
  • Facebook campaign to take 'Ding Dong! The Witch is Dead' to number one
  • Stop The War Coalition: 'She should also be remembered as a warmonger'
  • GMB union: 'Her legacy involves the destruction of communities'
  • Durham Miners' Association: Death was a 'great day' for coal miners
  • Second most trending topic: #nostatefuneral
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You see, none of this would have happened if we hadn't had welfare benefits.
 
This is the problem in revelling in her death - namely fracturing broadbased anticuts campaigns and the like - from facebook:


Claire Warby Bedroom Tax...think its unfair...join the fight here

I don't care how evil Thatcher was, seeing all these comments from the people I have been going out of my way to help with the cause (letter writing almost every day, attending protests, petition signing, getting my view across to as many people and media outlets as possible) is pissing me off. You want compassion from a government yet have none yourself. You want help from those who aren't affected by the BT? You want to prove you are not the "scum" as portrayed in the media...Christ, one look at the comments and the Daily Fail will have a field day. I wish you all success in your efforts to get this scrapped. Although I am still very much against all the cuts I am now bowing out. As this doesn't affect me I was fighting for you guys.

If I receive any emails or letters that may help from my past writings I will pass them on to Admin of this group to use as they wish.
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She wasnt the only one in the group - support in the comments
Just saying
 
sihhi said:
Tory backenchers LOL

e.g. James Gray "We owe her so much, and I, for one, am proud to salute her memory. ... She gave millions of ordinary people the ability - and the right - to better themselves and their families."

Jeremy Hunt "Tragic sad day but Lady T also reminds us of what politics can be at its best - turning things round against all the odds"

Gavin Barwell "Margaret Thatcher will go down as one of this country's greatest Prime Ministers"
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Gavin (Date Arab Girls) Barwell ?
 
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