3h 41m direct city centre to city centre beats the shit out of flying, figuratively and probably literally as well. A far more civilised way to travel. Fare prices are key though, but Eurostar has said they’re pricing their tickets to compete with airlines (starting at £35 one way), so fuck yeah! You’d be mad not to IMO.
Is it stopping anywhere else between Brussels & Amsterdam? Rotterdam would be good for us for visiting some friends. If customs was done at Brussels then intermediate stops would be OK, although I guess extra steps would hit journey times.
The service is really great, a fantastic way to travel. But their booking website at the moment is bloody awful. Just booked four tickets to Paris with TGV conections with different outward dates and the same inwrddates and it took three hours including two half hour waits to web chat with someone. I’d buy the tickets through someone else if possible.
We'll see on this. I've looked into Eurostar several times and the cost has never stacked up for me. I can't see them competing with Easyjet out of Gatwick for £60 - £80 return. This being said I'd prefer to go by train but I'm going to guess returns are generally going to be around £200.
For trips to Paris it stacks up when you factor in getting to and from airports to the city centres.We'll see on this. I've looked into Eurostar several times and the cost has never stacked up for me. I can't see them competing with Easyjet out of Gatwick for £60 - £80 return. This being said I'd prefer to go by train but I'm going to guess returns are generally going to be around £200.
Is it stopping anywhere else between Brussels & Amsterdam? Rotterdam would be good for us for visiting some friends. If customs was done at Brussels then intermediate stops would be OK, although I guess extra steps would hit journey times.
Isn't that partly because you live quite close to Gatwick? It costs me quite a lot of money to get there but King's Cross is one short tube journey. And then at the other end you're already in the city too.
Eurostar is cheaper for disabled people and people under 26 too (it's free for under-fours).
For trips to Paris it stacks up when you factor in getting to and from airports to the city centres.
Uk / Dutch Airport taxes are pretty ridiculous so Amsterdam may end up pretty competitive.
Gatwick is pretty well connected so even adding the extra for the train fare I'd be surprised if it still isn't a lot cheaper to fly. Also I used Gatwick as an example because it was the cheapest flights to Amsterdam when I went in November. You can fly to the dam from pretty much any UK airport.
I appreciate your point about families and disabled people. I really hope the Eurostar works out cost wise because I'd love to use it (I've got the ferry from Harwich to Hook of Holland and then the train to the dam twice) but I've never yet managed to make Eurostar work for me cost wise. Maybe its just the sort of travel I do.
London.What? Don't you live in Wales? Is there a stop in Tenby I don't know about.
It’s obviously a London market thing.
The telling point as to desirable - see how the fares even out.
London to Paris: Flying is cheaper. Bluntly, it’s the poor person’s option. End to end slower, loads more hassle. So they have to be cheaper than the leader.
The dam is on the edge, but I think they’ll tip it.
Not just London, but the areas around it (esp counties bordering North London). It's quite a lot of people really.
If you know how* London to Paris on Eurostar is £50 return.It’s obviously a London market thing.
The telling point as to desirable - see how the fares even out.
London to Paris: Flying is cheaper. Bluntly, it’s the poor person’s option. End to end slower, loads more hassle. So they have to be cheaper than the leader.
The dam is on the edge, but I think they’ll tip it.
WANTIf you know how* London to Paris on Eurostar is £50 return.
Tube to St Pancras.
No need for an airport taxi (most expensive cabs in the world), train or coach to or from central Paris.
Hours saved in airport lounges.
It’s always a nobrainer for me.
* I’m not sharing how.
WANT
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Rotterdam. 3 hours and 1 minute from London
I can recommend New Year in the Netherlands, they go a bit mental with fireworks in the street.
As I understand it, it’s just a question of the Dutch and British authorities agreeing on the setup to have passport control carried out at the Dutch end. Probably just a question of ‘who’s paying for it?’ So it should be in place in less than a year I would imagine.
I've just been reading up... apparently the hold up is that it needs a new British-Dutch treaty, which is delayed. I think one of the Dutch media outlets said the delay was Brexit related - but how true I don't know.
everyone who might have the skill to do it is probably a bit busy right now.
I like the idea of Thalys to Brussels then Eurostar on to London, if you're in first class you'll get two meals
I'm all for eurostar. Its so much easier than flying. What with checking in, luggage and boarding. You get to your destination and just walk, no baggage collection, no ticket check, nothing. Amongst other trips. We took the inaugural train to Avignon. Brilliant.
left a cold grey London and walked off in a hot sunny south of France...so damn cool.
Eh?It'd be at least £30 return to Gatwick for each person (from Victoria). The new route is going to be cheaper than the current system but yeah, it'll probably still be cheaper for some people to fly.
An anytime off-peak return starts at £32.40 from a return within a monthEh?
I don't think an off peak return victoria to gatwick is anything near that much.