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Tax return blues - would a bit of solidarity help?


You had the same problem last year! :D

Here is a fun one - Firstly - Select No to Select Yes. Secondly, if it knows what it needs me to select then why ask me?
I ticked yes because I thought it read like 'no' I didn't want to pay.

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Your profits are the same or above the small profit threshold, select 'No' to 'Select Yes if you want to pay Class 2 NICs voluntarily'
 
Oh jeez you have a better memory than me about me.
Did seem a bit easier this year, but I fear change and didn't like the duplo look.
Problems with HMRC's website stick out for me, being an accountant, as it's good to know what sort of problems clients (and others) might have if they do their Tax Returns themselves. Fortunately, I don't have to deal with the HMRC website for Tax Returns as I use software which uploads them from my PC.

The good news is that you've done your Tax Return a week earlier than last year.
 
Problems with HMRC's website stick out for me, being an accountant, as it's good to know what sort of problems clients (and others) might have if they do their Tax Returns themselves. Fortunately, I don't have to deal with the HMRC website for Tax Returns as I use software which uploads them from my PC.

The good news is that you've done your Tax Return a week earlier than last year.
Yay.

Better breakdowns and explanations of payments this year. Still some pointlessly over complicated questions that are actually quite easy when explained clearly.

So many ways they could make this much easier.
managing you account from previous returns looks like it might be a lot harder to find, (not that searched for it, just didn't see the option) as logging into my account only brought me to the current tax return I needed to fill in.
 
Just trying to decide if I should do a tax return or wind up self employment, done nothing "freelance" (that's a very glamorous term for cash in hand or one off bits of service user involvement work) for a couple of years.

Think I'll wind up this year. If I need to do more freelance I will set up again.
 
Just trying to decide if I should do a tax return or wind up self employment, done nothing "freelance" (that's a very glamorous term for cash in hand or one off bits of service user involvement work) for a couple of years.

Think I'll wind up this year. If I need to do more freelance I will set up again.
If you cease self-employment and that was the only reason you've had to do Tax Returns then in future years (where HMRC haven't issued Tax Returns) you may be able to take advantage of the new "Trading Allowance" introduced from 6th April 2018. Effectively, if you have trading receipts of less than £1,000 in a tax year you wouldn't need to prepare a Return just for that.

Tax-free allowances on property and trading income
 
If you cease self-employment and that was the only reason you've had to do Tax Returns then in future years (where HMRC haven't issued Tax Returns) you may be able to take advantage of the new "Trading Allowance" introduced from 6th April 2018. Effectively, if you have trading receipts of less than £1,000 in a tax year you wouldn't need to prepare a Return just for that.

Tax-free allowances on property and trading income
I do earn PAYE though.

Might chance it and not do it.
 
I do earn PAYE though.

Might chance it and not do it.
If you've been notified that you need to do a Tax Return you should submit it even if your self-employed earnings are nil. You may be able to phone HMRC and explain that you're no longer self-employed (and haven't had any self-employed income for a couple of years) and don't believe you need to prepare a return for 2018. They may cancel the 2018 Return requirement if there are no other reasons for you to do a Return but they may not. If they won't cancel it, when you prepare your Return make sure you complete the entries to confirm that you have ceased self-employment. Then, if there are no other reasons for you to prepare a Tax Return you won't need to do one in future years. Having PAYE income doesn't necessarily mean you need to prepare a Return - the bulk of people who earn via PAYE do not prepare Tax Returns.

Then, when you no longer receive a Tax Return and you receive casual earnings from self-employment below the £1,000 you won't need to re-register and start filling out Tax Returns again.
 
I'll phone them on Monday. I also need to ask them to send a copy of my p60 as my employer went online only and I never really worked out how to log in.
 
I'll phone them on Monday. I also need to ask them to send a copy of my p60 as my employer went online only and I never really worked out how to log in.
HMRC's SA helpline (0300 200 3310) is open up to 8pm weeknights and from 8am to 4pm on Saturdays and 9am to 5pm on Sundays so you could phone them over the weekend, if you wanted to.

Does anyone ever *want* to call HMRC? :hmm:
 
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It used to be so easy to get through to them, even when it was busy, and they were always very helpful. . . . there are a couple of times when I could have justifiably been screwed by them, but they really cut me some slack.
I wonder what it is like now with all the lay offs. Thank god they were still fully manned when I started being self employed, and didn't know what the hell I was doing.
 
It used to be so easy to get through to them, even when it was busy, and they were always very helpful. . . . there are a couple of times when I could have justifiably been screwed by them, but they really cut me some slack.
I wonder what it is like now with all the lay offs. Thank god they were still fully manned when I started being self employed, and didn't know what the hell I was doing.
The cuts have been massive and are ongoing. I most likely won't have a job in 6 months. Better than being in the DWP though :)
 
I'm quite lucky. I probably could legitimately claim for a TV, soundbar, and a music subscription.

I don't though.

Plus, wouldn't that have to audit you to find out what you are claiming for? Tax returns are one figure in, one figure out. . . just keep your own records.

You can opt to itemise your expenses - they might at least spot an unusually high capital expenditure, even if they don't know what it's for without investigating.
 
It's all input but not yet submitted. Will sit on it until after the weekend before a last review and pressing the magic button. Gives me a chance to think of anything missed (either income or allowances).
Also delaying for solidarity with Mrs Nick who has got as far as obtaining her P60 but not actually logged on yet (and she is a CFO:facepalm:)
 
Yeah... I know I said last week I'd do it on monday, well I didn't. But I have now logged on and got the figures (and the anxiety). Still a few days though.

Also, the fine is always for failing to submit, so even if you log on and say provisional figures or estimate then at least the £100 fine is avoided.
 
Did it on Monday, it was really easy. I rung them up a couple of times, but you tell them what you want in one of those automatic voice recognition things and it tells you what to search for on the website, so I never actually had to speak to anyone. Unfortunately had to ring Student Loans and now they have my new address.
 
bumping for next week :oops: kid home with migraines and tax returns do. not. mix. chez bob...

<my dad would be sooooooo proud> :D
 
Did mine at lunch time today, finally. I note they have changed the form again, which is annoying because it takes ages to work out where things should go.

Anyway, done for another year at least...
 
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