junglevip
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being black means you must be left wing
I think you missed the point a bit here. Mittens Romney lost
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And your being silly
being black means you must be left wing
UKIP will disintegrate BNP style. They are a bunch of publicity seeking swivel eyed cranks and fruitcakes that popular with right wing nut jobs and they get a lot of media attention.
Once they gain a bit more weight they will struggle to keep the racists and the homophobes in check and they will be exposed for what they really are. A are pathetic, narrow minded with attitudes that are a couple of hundred years out of date.
Obamas second term is a victory for the right. The fact that you think his skin colour outweighs his politics and the wider politics of anybody playing the electoral game in america on the american working class shows how well they've shifted the debate away from class.
UKIP do not come with the BNP's historical baggage and they have already faced a decade plus of claims they are full of racists - hasn't effected their slow steady rise - even at a period when they did have to compete with a confident resurgent BNP. You don't poll around 10% so consistently without it meaning something - and that something points beyond the stereotype of them all being retired majors or loons.
I am only in it for the money!
Unlike the BNP, however, it's harder to tag their policies as being broadly akin to the BNP, even if individual UKIP members DO have views that are akin to those of the BNP.
We can't rely on self-destruction. Bear in mind that UKIP have things that the BNP didn't have, like access to advice from friendly Tory politicians and public relations, wonks helping them formulate policy and donations from the pissed oof Tory right.
As for being exposed for what they really are, learn from history. People offering the promise of a return to a mythical golden age often do well in politics. That their ideas are "out of date" is part of their appeal to some voters.
You place too much importance on his skin color. Come on DC even the NRA are struggling, get real
Yep, and shouting "racist" at UKIP has mostly backfired because in the majority of instances their members may be hard-right, but aren't proveably racist.
you are the one who mentioned that a black man is president as if that were proof positive that the american right was fucked
let me explain, we may be at cross purposes here: I consider both the democrats and the GOP to be the right and the extreme right. The american left was killed in the 20s. Maybe before that.
UKIP will disintegrate BNP style. They are a bunch of publicity seeking swivel eyed cranks and fruitcakes that popular with right wing nut jobs and they get a lot of media attention.
Once they gain a bit more weight they will struggle to keep the racists and the homophobes in check and they will be exposed for what they really are. A are pathetic, narrow minded with attitudes that are a couple of hundred years out of date.
Its a bit desperate though and these people are getting smaller. More hardcore maybe but Darwinism will see to them
UKIP won't disintegrate because unlike the Lib-Dems they won't be so stupid as to ever a coalition government either in local politics or in Westminster politics.
They will always be right-wing.
Au contraire. The slightest whiff of power will have the frustrated wankers shooting themselves in the foot like that bastard sons of Yosemite Sam and Mrs Magoo
Nonsense. What do you need as proof? One of my photos from the old peoples home with of the old dears with 'I love UKIP' and a swastika tattoo'd across there buttocks. I bet you'd love that!
They're not getting smaller, that's the point!
Hard times almost always create a reactionary electorate, because more people, due to their circumstances, are willing to blame scapegoats rather than the true guilty parties. That gives parties like UKIP, who are relatively untainted by racism, a unique "in" to the electorate that the BNP could never have found or exploited. Like I said earlier, learn from history.
Au contraire. The slightest whiff of power will have the frustrated wankers shooting themselves in the foot like that bastard sons of Yosemite Sam and Mrs Magoo
That's what you're hoping, at least.
Blind optimism often leads to stubbed toes.
As such, your strategy is a waste of time and effort that would be better spent arguing against the merit of specific UKIP policies.
As such, your strategy is a waste of time and effort that would be better spent arguing against the merit of specific UKIP policies.
I see what you did there
That is the conventional wisdom, but Question Time asked some psephologists to check it for them before their Scotland/Independence edition after the SNP landslide and they said it ain't so. Can't find the clip, but IIRC it wouldn't have changed the result of any postwar election and had little effect on the size of the majorities.Just think how many seats Labour will lose when devolution takes hold!!! No socialist government in England again.
I'd call you a wanker, but that would be an insult to people who masturbate.
They're not getting smaller, that's the point!
Hard times almost always create a reactionary electorate, because more people, due to their circumstances, are willing to blame scapegoats rather than the true guilty parties. That gives parties like UKIP, who are relatively untainted by racism, a unique "in" to the electorate that the BNP could never have found or exploited. Like I said earlier, learn from history.
That is the conventional wisdom, but Question Time asked some psephologists to check it for them before their Scotland/Independence edition after the SNP landslide and they said it ain't so. Can't find the clip, but IIRC it wouldn't have changed the result of any postwar election and had little effect on the size of the majorities.
Would be interested in what the urban psephologists think of that, especially re: predicting the impact on future elections. Thatcher made them unelectable in Scotland, but they couldn't win a majority even against the mortally wounded Brown.
such an intellect
Why is wanting a referndum on Europe reactionary? And what has racism go to do with it?
Read my posts and find out, you goon.
why would I want to read through all your posts to find out some abstract opinion that exists in your bitter world. UKIP has nothing to do with racism except in bitter old lefties' eyes
why would I want to read through all your posts to find out some abstract opinion that exists in your bitter world. UKIP has nothing to do with racism except in bitter old lefties' eyes