Suella Braverman's time is up.

[Sasaferrato]

The only thing that stops me from screaming for a change of government is the doubt that Labour would do any better.

The whole House is infested with mediocre (at best) dross.

 

[marty21]

The only thing that stops me from screaming for a change of government is the doubt that Labour would do any better.

The whole House is infested with mediocre (at best) dross.

I don't think many are excited about a Starmer government tbf - but I am excited about seeing a night of Tory defeat after defeat at the GE.

 

[Voley]

I don't think many are excited about a Starmer government tbf - but I am excited about seeing a night of Tory defeat after defeat at the GE.

I'm at the 'Anything would be better than this shower of shite' phase now.

 

[tim]

Thank Christ we avoided chaos under Corbyn.

He's the new Secretary of State for Social Cohesion.

 

[moochedit]

I don't think many are excited about a Starmer government tbf - but I am excited about seeing a night of Tory defeat after defeat at the GE.

Yep, It's always fun watching a few "michael portillo moments" even if deep down you know our new overlords will be the same old shite as usual.

 

[marty21]

I'm at the 'Anything would be better than this shower of shite' phase now.

It'll be like 97 but without the optimism - just celebrating defeat after defeat - Portillo moments all over the shop.

 

[moochedit]

It'll be like 97 but without the optimism - just celebrating defeat after defeat - Portillo moments all over the shop.

"Things.... can only get better"

 

[Wilf]

I think it’s a surprisingly adroit move by Sunak. Cameron is the last Tory PM that was actually quite popular with everyday non-membership South-Eastern Tories. Call-me Dave, I’m-socially-liberal-not-nasty — he’s never going to win round Labour voters or retain the Boris voters but he might help Sunak avoid haemorrhaging the Home Counties because he’s the Tory version of the opposite of Braverman (who is hates by the economically conservative but socially liberal South-East).

Tend to agree, appointing piggy wiggly is a kind of pre-johnson reset.

 

[Wilf]

I do hope he inadvertently lets that slip to Cameron.

Levelling Up.

 

[Wilf]

Off to the knackers like poor boxer

First of all, I hope he gets boxed on the knackers.

 

[Wilf]

Never mind anything, I'm just amazed Cameron is back in government.

Suppose it's an attempt at bringing in a (lol) grown-up. Same time it also tilts the balance away from the frothing eurosceptic idiots. Wonder if that's intentional?

 

[Wilf]

I'm surprised Sunak asked John Major to come back out retirement. Or perhaps he has and Major told him to fuck off

I was about to do a Disraeli quip....but won't.

 

[Wilf]

Sky says that William Hague brokered the deal to get Cameron back.

'And if you need a foreign secretary, there's a former holder of the post already in the Lords...'
'Thanks William, I'll, erm, bear that in mind'

 

[hitmouse]

We have no definitive evidence he's not done this, and given what else he's got up to, let's not rule it out.

Imagine the fucking row we'll have on here when it turns out that Sunak has in fact painted his bottom turquoise or indigo and twerked round the streets of Westminster.

 

[Mezzer]

If I'm going to be taken to task for what I said please have the grace to address what I actually said, which was that I felt it more likely rs would paint his bottom blue and twerk round Westminster. I didn't rule out its happening.

You are disappointing me more and more . We're all keyboard warriors to a greater or lesser extent on this forum, but if we're dissing it out we should all have the grace to take it when we are wrong. Otherwise, we're like the Lib Dems and can say whatever we like knowing we'll never be called to account. Why is it so difficult to hold your hands up and say it?

 

[kenny g]

I don't think many are excited about a Starmer government tbf - but I am excited about seeing a night of Tory defeat after defeat at the GE.

They are even conspiring to reduce that pleasure by choosing to retire pre election.

 

[hitmouse]

I think we're all veterans of watching politics on this forum and I'm not sure I've ever seen anything as desperate as bringing back an ex-MP who isn't even in the Lords as a Cabinet member.

I can see where you're coming from, but at the same time, I'm still not sure it's quite as desperate as bringing back an ex-Home Secretary who was such a disaster she didn't manage to make it through the entirety of the Truss government.

 

[Pickman's model]

You are disappointing me more and more . We're all keyboard warriors to a greater or lesser extent on this forum, but if we're dissing it out we should all have the grace to take it when we are wrong. Otherwise, we're like the Lib Dems and can say whatever we like knowing we'll never be called to account. Why is it so difficult to hold your hands up and say it?

i have taken it when i was wrong. i have admitted i didn't see this coming. i have thanked for the correction on elevation to the house of lords. i don't know what more you want me to say.

 

[Riklet]

Played out exactly like I thought.

Except for bloody Cameron coming back!!! Crikey. As awful as he is he seems fully competent compared to the rest of the useless tossers.

 

[Sasaferrato]

Played out exactly like I thought.

Except for bloody Cameron coming back!!! Crikey. As awful as he is he seems fully competent compared to the rest of the useless tossers.

And elevated to the Lords.

 

[Pickman's model]

Played out exactly like I thought.

Except for bloody Cameron coming back!!! Crikey. As awful as he is he seems fully competent compared to the rest of the useless tossers.

And at least as corrupt as the others

 

[Riklet]

And elevated to the Lords.

Well that is not without precedent. Brown did the same with Madelson iirc. It's happened in the past. I am obviously sceptical about it because like them or loathe them MPs were actually elected via some kind of process. Not just technocrats bused in.

Cameron for sure has more international clout and contacts though (maybe with Biden too?) than the rest of the cabinet. That's why he's back in.. with things kicking off in the middle east. Even though they hate him.. they are admitting they are out of their depth.

 

[Chilli.s]

One thing about braverman I'll miss is how she showed the tories in their true light

 

[Rob Ray]

Unfortunately like Trump a fair number of people discovered they actually liked it.

 

[Orang Utan]

i have taken it when i was wrong. i have admitted i didn't see this coming. i have thanked for the correction on elevation to the house of lords. i don't know what more you want me to say.

Actions, not words.
Resign now. Go spend more time with your family.

 

[Pickman's model]

Well that is not without precedent. Brown did the same with Madelson iirc. It's happened in the past. I am obviously sceptical about it because like them or loathe them MPs were actually elected via some kind of process. Not just technocrats bused in.

Cameron for sure has more international clout and contacts though (maybe with Biden too?) than the rest of the cabinet. That's why he's back in.. with things kicking off in the middle east. Even though they hate him.. they are admitting they are out of their depth.

It is without precedent for a former pm who departed number 10 in high dudgeon, who none of his successors previously thought even worthy of a knighthood, who has at best rather flexible morals to return to politics in such a way. After the way the tory party has moved so far away from Europe its a great surprise to see a remainer promoted from nowhere to be foreign secretary. And it'll play poorly with large sections both of the parliamentary party and the membership. Sure, they're admitting they're out of their depth. But Cameron foundered through much of his premiership and his foreign policy was utterly abysmal, playing a significant role in promoting the creation of the migrant crisis of recent years and and his almost unbelievably crap negotiation with the eu in the run-up to the referendum. If Cameron is the answer they must be asking the wrong question.

 

[Riklet]

Sure but fuck em. I want it to go badly....

 

[Sasaferrato]

Well that is not without precedent. Brown did the same with Madelson iirc. It's happened in the past. I am obviously sceptical about it because like them or loathe them MPs were actually elected via some kind of process. Not just technocrats bused in.

Cameron for sure has more international clout and contacts though (maybe with Biden too?) than the rest of the cabinet. That's why he's back in.. with things kicking off in the middle east. Even though they hate him.. they are admitting they are out of their depth.

The irony!

 

[Bingoman]

Blimey Sunak is going to Esther Mcvey a job?

 

[cesare]

It is without precedent for a former pm who departed number 10 in high dudgeon, who none of his successors previously thought even worthy of a knighthood, who has at best rather flexible morals to return to politics in such a way. After the way the tory party has moved so far away from Europe its a great surprise to see a remainer promoted from nowhere to be foreign secretary. And it'll play poorly with large sections both of the parliamentary party and the membership. Sure, they're admitting they're out of their depth. But Cameron foundered through much of his premiership and his foreign policy was utterly abysmal, playing a significant role in promoting the creation of the migrant crisis of recent years and and his almost unbelievably crap negotiation with the eu in the run-up to the referendum. If Cameron is the answer they must be asking the wrong question.

Back in the day he properly upped himself re NI too*, a factor in Sunak's decision making given SB was utterly clueless about Ireland AT ALL.

*Yeah, I know he was shit but presumably it'll throw a bone to the DUP in the aftermath of SB fucking that right up as well.