Aye it's true to an extent. Why you coming on here to troll TruXta?
Suarez gets 8 match ban
- Thread starter Maggot
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Have you followed the thread? I explained why I said that. Just cos you and some other folk have criticised me for expressing my views about latin american culture, I can't erase what I have seen and experienced in Colombia and Venezuela and read about in other parts of Latin america. Maybe next time you say "no this is not the case cos I have pals who are latin american" and when you have not actually lived there, you should realise that you are going to be found out by someone who has experienced the racism in latin america which owes much to spanish colonialisms past.
Lo Siento.
Second As Farce
There's no equivalent because the same colonial and post-colonial relationship doesn't exist between the UK and the Spanish speaking world. It's as strong as "paki" and probably the closest equivalent would be the American "wetback".
SushiMo
I'm always right.
One final point from me before I go and do something else more useful. If Suarez is the 'Racist' he is now deemed to be by so many, how come he has lasted this long in the EPL/Europe without this having happened before? If it had do you not think others would have come forward and backed Evra on this? If they have and this comes forth in a report, fair enough, but if it is purely Evra that deems the words spoken to be racist then I still feel it is he with the problem, especially as quoted by 'littlebabyjesus' on his upbringing having been tough (if it was). A true racist is always racist, it doesn't just happen out of the blue after years of playing with and against a b***k person. <<< I assume that word is now racist so have posted correctly.
Lo Siento.
Second As Farce
I have followed the thread, you explained it, it's still a dumb assertion to make, even accepting that Latin America has an exceptional problem with racism. It's akin to visiting Serbia and saying Europe is a continent of Croat-haters.
TruXta
tired
Fit birds, but the men are too hairy for my tastes.
littlebabyjesus
one of Maxwell's demons
Oh dear. 
(At SushiMo)
(At SushiMo)
TruXta
tired
Can't be arsed to talk to someone who talks about something they know hardly anything about, taking their inside knowledge from some latinos he happens to know.
littlebabyjesus
one of Maxwell's demons
No, at 'b***k' sushimo.
Lo Siento.
Second As Farce
See this is the kind of horseshit that produces the whole "I can't be a racist I have black friends". It's perfectly possible to like and be friends with non-white individuals and still behave in a degrading and prejudicial way.
And, for the nth time, no one is saying that the word "black" is racist. Certainly the direct translation "little blacky" would be. And certainly in the context of an argument.
It's not that hard:
"Fuck off you Jew": Offensive.
"John is Jewish": Not offensive.
TruXta
tired
Lo Siento.
Second As Farce
Oh really? So your experiences of living somewhere as an expat for a while, in a country that is profoundly different from Uruguay, trump my experience of years of daily interactions with my partner, her entire family and all of her friends? All of them being either from the country that is culturally most similar to Uruguay or actually from Uruguay itself?
That's even before we get into the sheer idiocy of your argument, as you've expressed it, which a 6th form debating society could pick apart using Google.
Its different. I didn't live there as an expat. I was not talking about Uruguay but Colombia and Venezuela, so yes your knowledge of Uruguayan culture is better than mine but just like if you don't live in the Uk you can't really gauge what the country is like from going out with a expat brit in Uruguay.
Maggot
The Cake of Liberty
Where did you get that figure from - David Cameron?
http://www.guardian.co.uk/education/2011/apr/11/oxford-cameron-black-students
It's actually 27 students.
Henry Winter wrote in the Telegraph that “Referee Andre Marriner called the pair together for a lecture. Suárez apologised and attempted to pat the United full-back on the head. ‘Don’t touch me, you South American,’ Evra is alleged to have said. To which, the Uruguayan replied: ‘Porque, Negro?’
It's been reported elsewhere that Evra said 'sudaca' but whether that was during this exchange or at another time we don't know, and until the FA publish the full report (now we're told mid Jan which is a fucking disgrace in itself) we won't know.
It's also been reported that Evra subsequently asked the ref if he was being booked because he was black. Like the 'sudaca' thing, this seems to have gone without censure by the FA.
Lo Siento.
Second As Farce
Err, Oxford say in that very same article the same thing I did, that they only accepted only one afro-caribbean student (and some other black people, but still well below proportionally to the population as a whole).
Lol who is in the 6th form debating society now lo siento? Maybe you should live in latin america before you come on here acting like the spokesmen for the place. Fucking gringo
agricola
a genuine importer of owls
The problem with this being that noone (Suarez, the RS, "King Kenny" etc) has made any official complaint against Evra. As for the report, I agree that it should be published now if only to highlight the complete fuckwittery of the RS, their manager and their fans.
Lo Siento.
Second As Farce
How exactly did you avoid living there as an expat? Did you morph into a Venezuelan when you arrived?
I'd say that having very close relationships with people from a country, being welcomed into their homes etc. over a number of years would give you in some ways a deeper insight into a culture than living and working there for a while would.
littlebabyjesus
one of Maxwell's demons
That shouldn't matter, though, should it? In a disciplinary, surely these things would have come out. If it was 'tit-for-tat' racial abuse, started by Evra, that should have been explained in any disciplinary, and presumably was explained.
And if - if - Evra called Suarez 'sudaca', he should have been called in and asked what the fuck he was doing making a complaint when he was just as guilty himself!
Sorry affair, really. Nobody comes out of it well.
Maggot
The Cake of Liberty
You're as bad as Cameron with your selective use of statistics!
Trying to make this country look more racist than it is.
Lo Siento.
Second As Farce
Lol who is in the 6th form debating society now lo siento? Maybe you should live in latin america before you come on here acting like the spokesmen for the place. Fucking gringo
From the same link.
Lo Siento.
Second As Farce
Well actually, I quoted the figure that I had seen. The real figure is still shit though.You're as bad as Cameron with your selective use of statistics!
Trying to make this country look more racist than it is.
agricola
a genuine importer of owls
If thats what happened, perhaps - but surely the point is that if that is what happened the club/player would have made a complaint? Evra racially abusing Suarez would considerably weaken his own case, and boost that of Suarez.
Deareg
Well-Known Member
They seem to be making things up after he has been found guilty or else he had a completely shit lawyer.
littlebabyjesus
one of Maxwell's demons
Not necessarily. Not everyone wants to take this kind of thing further.
Lo Siento.
Second As Farce
oh, and as for spokesman for "the place", I've not made a single categorical statement other than to say the reality is more complicated across a large, very diverse continent than your blanket condemnation of all latinoculture allows. I didn't even mention my connection to the place until you started making residency part of criteria for making a sodding rational argument.Lol who is in the 6th form debating society now lo siento? Maybe you should live in latin america before you come on here acting like the spokesmen for the place. Fucking gringo
agricola
a genuine importer of owls
TBH I find that very difficult to believe, given the nature of this complaint and the clubs/players involved.
littlebabyjesus
one of Maxwell's demons
You find what very difficult to believe? That Evra called Suarez 'sudaca' and Suarez didn't want to make an official complaint about it? I find that very easy to believe.
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