Stonking maiden speech in Parliament by Mhairi Black

[equationgirl]

I'm not familiar with the term - is it comparable to 'duck' in the Midlands?

It can be a general greeting, 'hi hen' much like 'hello dear', especially here in Glasgow, but it is gendered, you'd never use it to a man, and it's generally used as far as I can tell by an older person to a younger person. So I've been called hen many times since I've moved to the city, mostly by women older than me.

When used by a man to a woman, it can be a term of endearment like a father would to a daughter.

Sas used it as gendered insult though, which sought to belittle her and put the woman back in her place.

 

[Dan U]

I've been called duck a few times in the Midlands. I don't think that phrase is gender specific

 

[Pickman's model]

It's the "just live with you parents" comments that make me angry. All posted by people with no idea that a persons childhood and upbringing could be anything other than happy middle class 2.4 kids with a dog and people carrier in the suburbs.

so happy many m/c ship their offspring far afield at 18 or so

 

[Pickman's model]

I've been called duck a few times in the Midlands. I don't think that phrase is gender specific

had you down as more a bird of prey with your eagle eyes

 

[8ball]

I've been called duck a few times in the Midlands. I don't think that phrase is gender specific

Nor is 'love', or 'chicken' down near Leicester. Hence me wondering about 'hen'. Though that last one sounds a little more gendered to me.

 

[Dan U]

Nor is 'love', or 'chicken' down near Leicester. Hence me wondering about 'hen'. Though that last one sounds a little more gendered to me.

Does to me too tbh.

 

[8ball]

if it miows, then it will probably be called a cat.

Generally a bad idea to leave them with the hens.

I think we might be getting lost with the animal metaphors...

 

[weepiper]

hen is never said to a man, except possibly as an insult.

 

[weltweit]

Still, a good maiden speech. I expect she will go far.

 

[equationgirl]

hen is never said to a man, except possibly as an insult.

Aye, 'you're just like a woman' type thing.

Dan U 'dear' is a nongendered greeting or term. 'hen' is gendered.

 

[8ball]

hen is never said to a man, except possibly as an insult.

Fair enough - really quite different to those other terms, then.

Like I said, I'm not familiar with the vernacular.
In which case maybe Sass will apologise when he's less 'tired'.

 

[8ball]

Still, a good maiden speech. I expect she will go far.

No one will allow a good example to set in Scotland while England is asset-stripped.

 

[weltweit]

No one will allow a good example to set in Scotland while England is asset-stripped.

Sorry 8ball I don't understand your post.

 

[souljacker]

Witter on all you like hen, you are going absolutely nowhere for the next five years.

I think she's going to go a long way in way five years. Good luck to her.

 

[nino_savatte]

Witter on all you like hen, you are going absolutely nowhere for the next five years.

Jesus wept.

 

[nino_savatte]

Perhaps Sas reads the Daily Mail. He certainly fits in in the comments section.

Check out the cunt in Dubai. "Totally lacking in experience's" (sic).

FFS.

 

[8ball]

Sorry 8ball I don't understand your post.

If Scotland looks to be doing too well there will be pressure to sanction it.
Most likely in a deal similar to NAFTA.

 

[Artaxerxes]

Comparing Sass to people who make comments on the Mail website is harsh tbf.

Probably, I'm sure some of the Mail commentators are lovely people


*lightning strikes me down*

 

[Orang Utan]

83% of terrible Daily Mail comments are longdog mucking about

 

[SpookyFrank]

Witter on all you like hen, you are going absolutely nowhere for the next five years.

Scotland's only tory in 'bitter' shocker

 

[Poot]

hen is never said to a man, except possibly as an insult.

It's 'maid' down here instead of 'hen'. Pretty much the same meaning.

 

[existentialist]

Scotland's only tory in 'bitter' shocker

Sass is definitely not a Tory. He's extremely (small-c) conservative, but that's not the same thing...

 

[SpookyFrank]

I've been called duck a few times in the Midlands. I don't think that phrase is gender specific

It's not. Everyone is 'duck' round here. Men and women, young and old. And ducks too I suppose.

But no, hen is a disparaging form of address for a younger woman, in this context at least. Same as you might call a younger man 'sunshine' if you were trying to undermine what he was saying without recourse to actually addressing any of it.

Luckily, this Mhairi Black character seems to have more than enough about her to shrug off all that kind of shit, although I daresay she'll be subjected to a fair bit of it

 

[Treacle Toes]

Witter on all you like hen, you are going absolutely nowhere for the next five years.

When you grow up you'd do well to be or know half of what she is at 20 years old.

 

[SpookyFrank]

Sass is definitely not a Tory. He's extremely (small-c) conservative, but that's not the same thing...

A cunt with a small c is still a cunt, as my dear old nan used to say.

 

[Treacle Toes]

Listen to it. She's one to watch.



Weathervanes and signposts indeed. And an effective little story.

She's a great speaker.

 

[cesare]

ennit, what if someones creeping in your room every night? or you get slapped about regular? Not like the network of hostels are thriving and anyway, most of them relied absolutely on HB per resident as part of core funding. Watch youth homelessness spike in the next five years

And young carers.

 

[8ball]

A cunt with a small c is still a cunt, as my dear old nan used to say.

I'll remember that when I run into my next 'small c' conservative.

 

[SpookyFrank]

ennit, what if someones creeping in your room every night? or you get slapped about regular? Not like the network of hostels are thriving and anyway, most of them relied absolutely on HB per resident as part of core funding. Watch youth homelessness spike in the next five years

Did they not also move the cut off point for support for foster parents from 21 years to 18 years quite recently?

 

[8ball]

Did they not also move the cut off point for support for foster parents from 21 years to 18 years quite recently?

Astonishing how we're going backwards so fast.

Even to the degree of having a thread about bringing back fox hunting ffs!